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Semantics. I'm not changing how I refer to them. You want to say you're a Jew--you're not. Deuteronomy 28 didn't refer to the Blacks brought here. That was my argument to you. Did you have a response? Don't tell me go fish your answer for you. You do your own fishing, you bring it here, you...

1. I brought Mariolatry up BECAUSE you didn't follow it... but here you're following errant men who did. Starting in the 2nd century, the Mariolatry began with St. Irenaeus declaring her to be "New Eve" and it ramped up from there. These are the men you're following, and telling me and all the...

1. Clarification : NT Wright has wanted to claim "works of Law" is "Jewish stuff like dietary Law, Sabbath, etc". When I emailed him and told him there was a problem with that view, because "works of Law" included coveting, I think he said he agreed with me, but that he had said more about the...

Heh, what ever it is, it's definitely not you. Deuteronomy 28 wasn't about you. As always, you're uninterested in truth when it intrudes on your false beliefs Don't tell me you think "identification" makes it so? "I 'identify' as a steamroller. I always knew I was different as a child." "I...

You have a lot to say, but when you're debunked, you're not in the mood. You know you're not following truth, then, right? If only you would remain quiet. The problem is you won't.

Guys @amadeus @Ziggy Please consider that "salvation by works or faith" or "can salvation be lost?" are not the topic, and that, to keep this discussion from fraying, perhaps you could reserve those discussions for threads about salvation.

I'm not being dishonest to my knowledge. Please give me a link to where you make it clear because I honestly don't remember seeing it. It's not one or the other, it's both. We are co-laborers with God. "it was given her to clothe herself with... the good deeds of the saints" Revelation 19:7-8...

I agree : “the faith which was once delivered unto the saints” means the message was complete. All so-called "authoritative" Johnny-come-lately additions aren't part of it. They're not "the faith". We already know where to look to become "wise" with regard to faith : Scripture. That's APOSTOLIC...

Christ, our Example, was submissive to Scripture, living "that the Scripture might be fulfilled" and "as it is written"--just like Paul always stated "as it is written". You shouldn't have a problem with people who say, "Listen, I KNOW God said these things--Jesus and His Apostles grew up on...

Thanks, not sure why you had to ask then. You don't like my views. That's fine.

Sir, all you have is a hammer so everything looks like a nail to you. Go look at all the threads I'm involved in and how few of them revolve around OSAS. You don't know what you're saying--either about OSAS or about me.

You are joining a discussion. The discussion is in progress. If you want to know the views of those in the discussion, it would be courteous for you to inform yourself by reading the discussion rather than asking everyone to repeat themselves. I don't think that is an unreasonable request.

To repeat myself : "read the thread".

Quick answer (already given in thread) : "Works of Law" includes the "moral aspect"--Romans 3:19-20 say "...justified by the works of the Law... for by the Law comes the knowledge of sin" (whenever the Law informs you as to what sin is, you know a "work of the Law" is discussed), then Romans 7:7...

As far as I understand it, the author of the OP believes like I do, and not like you--ie, he doesn't believe in OSAS--therefore, I understand where he's coming from with this question (because our beliefs lead to the same line of questioning--ie, I've wondered about it myself). He hasn't had...

I already contacted a Professor's aide in the UK (an Egyptologist--something along those lines (antiquities--he specialized in their art work I believe)); he told me (what is already obvious) "Just look at the Egyptians' own illustrations." Yeah, they weren't Black, they looked Arabic just like...

@Curtis Please, consider : the discussion is about how "works of Law" differ from "good works", and some users--users to whom every discussion appears to be a nail, because all they have is a hammer--find it difficult to stay on topic. Thanks.

LOL You like the phrase "crystal clear". On the "Enoch" issue, you misunderstood, so please reread. I mentioned their Mariolatry BECAUSE you don't follow it.

I see your view as being "Mariolators told me, and I unthinkingly obey." I militate against tradition. I question everything. I try to get to the bottom of everything. I militate against my own views--hence I accepted that Russian Orthodox's argument, because it was more reasonable than mine...

Verses 19 and 20 were digs at the hypocrisy of the Pharisees--"do and teach" was their failure, and He was bringing that out. However, as was already pointed out, Jesus goes on to militate against Torah, because it was inferior to the Law He was bringing.