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1. All human beings are subordinate to God's Word, "Scripture". "Scripture", referred to in the NT, was "Old Testament", codified by Ezra, et al. The Church had nothing to do with those writings. 2. The fact that a bunch of self-appointed men canonized the New Testament writings--where is the...

Guys, please stop posting if you are not replying to the OP. You are out of order.

You are off-topic. This is not a landfill. Either post in response to the OP or not at all.

I consider your mountains of speculation to be a distraction, yes--it all relies on a rejection of crystal clear teaching that the Church is the New Eve.

Let me help you out : Adam was the first man of the whole human race. Adam was given a bride made from his own body--her name was Eve. Christ is the fulfillment of the Adam type--head of a new race Romans 5:14. Christ is like another Adam, but spiritual 1 Corinthians 15:45. Christ is given a...

Precisely wrong : I am not forbidding evidence, I'm forbidding you side-stepping evidence and trying to distract people.

You're concerned about people being "loving"--the thread is "loving" by proving homosexuality is a sin.

The misled mislead others--and on an issue like homosexuality, it can determine one's eternal fate--so of course it's worth debating.

I understand where you're coming from, even if it is irrelevant to the question of whether homosexuality is or is not a sin.

Before I make a post explaining myself, which you probably won't read, let's start here : do you agree Christ is the New Adam (Romans 5:14, 1 Corinthians 15:45)?

The thread is merely about proving homosexuality is a sin because some people deny it.

Some deny homosexuality is a sin. That's what this thread is about--proving it's a sin.

1. The Church is subordinate to the Word of God, and the Word of God is subordinate to God the Father. 2. The fact that the Church is "the pillar and ground of the truth" stems from its having issued from Christ, Who is the Truth--it is just another proof that she, and not Mary, is the New Eve.

Question-begging.

The Church is subordinate to the Word of God. The Supreme Authority is God the Father, then Christ, then the Church.

Address the Scriptures provided you in the OP. I'm not interested in your context-rejecting straw-grasping.

You clearly did not read my reply (so I won't be reading yours here) : again, not all agree homosexuality is even a sin, and that was what this OP was about. Trust me, I wrote it.

Interesting. We're you planning on actually "discussing" or just making assertions without proving them? I provided evidence. Address the evidence please.

Well, I was studying and found the Bible taught the Church was New Eve, then realized it disproved this supposedly authoritative teaching of the Catholics (perhaps also Orthodox). Just FYI, I don't think God rejects people for having imperfect theology--I see that God is with some Catholics and...

I'm just not answering off topic stuff and I'm trying to figure out how youre on topic. You're not making that clear. Make it clear if you want a response please.