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Not my opinion. Its in scripture which you choose to ignore Baptism is of water and spirit Why do you avoid my question? It's becoming obvious why you do so. The rest of John 3 is a clear indication that being born again involves baptism You can have your opinion but your arguments are very...

Acts2:38 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit Romans 6:3-4 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death...

That's your confusion. Baptism is of water and spirit. And your still avoiding my question as to why the rest of John 3 is focused on baptism, immediately after the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus?

I'm talking about the belief of the early church, in the first few centuries, that born again relates to baptism. As early as Paul. He believed in baptism Romans 6:3-4 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore...

That's OK but it's got nuffin on the bear walking into the gas station to get a chocolate bar

Well I've listened to the arguments for this modern day interpretation of born again but in my opinion they don't stack up compared to the view of the early church. I believe, as the ancient Christians did, that being born again has something to do with baptism, at the very least. Given water...

Does it happen in one moment or over time?

"sacramentalism" I never said anything like that. You said being born of water symbolises baptism. I agree

So that i can better understand your position, can you please explain to me what your interpretation of born again is, what connection it has with being born of the spirit and its connection with the rest of chapter 3 which clearly has a lot of baptising in it?

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I've been voting for Pauline's independent party for many years, in both federal and state elections. She has had a huge surge in popularity and has topped several different polls most recently. Its the first time an independent party has topped the two major parties here. Immigration is her...

I just don't understand what your objection is to my opinion when it is actually the same as yours. There are others who disagree with you. Wouldn't it make more sense to argue with them who disagree with you

Sorry. I think I was trying to answer someone else and accidentally referred to you

Actually, Nicodemus didn't get it at all. John 3:10 10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things? The modern claim that water refers to amniotic fluid is an erroneous one in my opinion. I think the ancient interpretation makes much more sense, that the...

Only in the U S of A :Laughingoutloud:

Considering you actually agree with me about the water I don't really understand your objection to my opinion about it. There are people here who disagree with you but your only arguing with me who you agree with. You just appear to be antagonising me

Wow. Hummingbirds are so cool. Unfortunately we don't have them in Australia

Only in America

Yea someone else mentioned Eze 36:22-36 Interesting

I'm not sure. Do you have any idea?