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It's still no reason for Jesus to use incorrect terminology Thats another reason, I was thinking that as well. It's something that doesn't need to be mentioned, we're all born from a mother first. Also the fact that he says "water AND spirit" is a clear indication that He is speaking about...

To be honest your explanation just confused me. At one stage you seem to be saying that being born again doesn't involve baptism but then it looks like your saying that it does involve baptism. Which one is it? I believe in the ancient interpretation that being born again does involve baptism...

Birth fluid is not water at all. It's amniotic fluid. Jesus is wise. It's highly improbable that Jesus got this simple fact mixed up. Besides, if Jesus was talking about 2 separate events he would of said "water THEN spirit" But the fact that he says "water AND spirit" is a clear indication...

That's exactly why it's not water. Watermelon is 92% water. Cordial mix can be 95% water. None of it is water unless it's 100% H2O

You make a good point there Romans 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we...

Actually we are born by amniotic fluid. It's not water at all. Jesus is wise and it's highly improbable that he would get water and amniotic fluid mixed up.

Amniotic fluid is from natural birth. Not water. Jesus is wise and would surely not get these two things mixed up

Thanks for that explanation. You made some good points worth considering. It appears to confirms the ancient interpretation of being born again, that the water spoken about is surely baptismal water and certainly not the amniotic fluid of birth which is not water at all.

You appear to be dismissing what Christ said in the verse before that. John 3:5 “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit So water is actually very much involved

All the hosts are out now. USA, Canada and Mexico. And there was nothing corrupt about it. The team who scores the most wins. It's simple. Both my countries are out as well You can either accept it, enjoy the rest of the tournament or be bitter, cry and make accusations about it.

England vs Mexico Was an extraordinary match. England came out victorous. Another big team, Brasil gets knocked out by Norway Big matches tonight/tomorrow, depending where you are. Portugal vs Spain USA vs Belgium I hope USA and Portugal win

VIVA A RECONQUISTA VITÓRIA PORTUGAL VITÓRIA ESPAÑA VITÓRIA CRISTIANOS

Australia has some of the most venemous snakes in the world, as we've discussed before, but only a few people die from a snake bite every year in Australia. I think its because we have plenty of hospitals with anti venom for these snakes. A person needs to be bitten somewhere very remote and far...

That's a very complicated explanation and it's the first time I have heard of the term spiritual regeneration. My view is much simpler. Its that the term born again, from water and spirit, that Jesus describes in John 3 most probably refers to baptism.

John says born again from water and spirit. Saying that water stands for birth fluid of the original birth is not a very good explanation in my opinion because birth fluid is not water.

Ok but you did admit that water does appear to symbolise the water of a baptism. I grew up in a Catholic family and went to Catholic school. I never heard of the term born again. Although I don't adhere to many of the doctrines of the RCC I think they and the Orthodox churches are right on this...

It's is also about that, but I see it mostly being about baptism. At the very least it mentions it several times So how do you link being born of the spirit to the modern view of being born again? And just so we are both on the same page, What is your definition of being born again?

Sorry I don't see how this relates to being born again through water and spirit. None of those things are mentioned here

Matthew 3:11 11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Acts 1:5 5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy...

I don't understand what your trying to say here. But your using a quote from another chapter that isn't talking about being born again