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  1. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    1) nobody says he was in the ark 7 days before the flood...so no smoking gun there. 2) you left out Daniel 9:27. ( which says he rules for 7 yrs.) 3) the ac desecrates the temple IN THE MIDDLE of the 7yr covenant. ( 3.5 yrs into the 7 yr trib) You see the corner you painted yourself into? Are...
  2. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Yes The dead in christ without glorified bodies that are currently in heaven,come with Jesus at the pretrib rapture and are joined to their resurrected bodies . He brings them with Him. Ty for that pretrib dynamic.
  3. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Stop the cry baby mess. What a joke.
  4. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. The white horse coming is AFTER the 7yr trib The coming in Rev 14:14 is DURING THE TRIB. The 3rd coming:...before the...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Tell it to the writer of the Bible. Tell him he is wrong. Rev 20 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Huh...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    You and I are about 100 miles apart on the 7 yr trib. In one breath you deny it, then you claim half of the 7 yrs is past. No sir it is definately 7 years as stated in Daniel and the TEMPLE IS DESCECRATED MIDWAY. Daniel 9 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Glad to hear it. 1) the Jewish gathering is in Romans 9-11. 2) the Jewish wife is in Hosea, and Ruth. 3) the first miracle of Jesus was at a wedding...a Jewish wedding. In God's kingdom, the last is first and the first is last. They are interchangeable. At the miracle of the first wedding it...
  8. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    "Dave nj", just Willie nillie throws out verses without even knowing himself what he is doing. Flat out bizarre.
  9. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Nope. Jesus is firstfruits of the resurrection. To understand what is going on, That dynamic HAS TO BE FACTORED IN. IOW, the question at the heart of purpose, is why is a glorified BODY necessary? Why not just leave the spirits in heaven as spirits? Once that is on the table, truth becomes a...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    1 and 2 are the same coming. 4 and 5 are Rev 19. Coming Rev 14 coming is during the 7 yr trib. 3 separate comings.
  11. rebuilder 454

    Using the term "rapture" incorrectly

    Is this the last day? Rev 14:14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. Or Is this the last day? Mat24 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and...
  12. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Connect the dots. Very simple.
  13. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    It is Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle during the trib. It is not rev 19 second coming. Rev 14 is a Jewish gathering. (Ethnic Jewish 144,000 firstfruits), then vs 14 is Jewish main harvest. 1 thes 4, mat 25, and mat24 (one taken, one left), are all the church pretrib rapture. The...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    If anyone starts their end times position on "one coming" , they got a long road ahead, to reframe God's word into explaining the 3 comings dynamic away. A really hard job.
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    We own end times.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Well. He will twist it up properly. I will watch from a distance. At some point he will introduce the mocking once he gets owned by a bible. Psssst...pretty sure he is amil....and sports a special amil bible.
  17. rebuilder 454

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Lol You got owned in your one coming deal. The uturn back to earth is lame. That gross error is invented and debunked. Three distinct comings. Rev 14:14 Rev 19 1 thess 4. Literally impossible to blenderize the 3 comings into one. The one in Rev 14 VIVID VIVID DEPICTION. It is comical watching...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Taking verses and twisting them are we? Here it is in CONTEXT. JN 14 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am...
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    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Your uturn back to earth is made up big time. In rev 19 the saints are in heaven and the bride is now the wife. Meaning the marriage supper is over and was in heaven. Then you misquoted Jesus saying "where i am you may be also." You twisted it. In the virgin parable the bride goes into the...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    why do you call yourself truth, then lie about me? My post from a few days ago: ""Revelation 13 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship...