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  1. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    AMEN. HEB 11:5 By faith Enoch was TRANSLATED that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. Was not ENOCH a "man"? JOH 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down...
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    Your opinion. My scriptural opinion; PHI 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved (BRETHREN), as ye have ALWAYS OBEYED, not as in my presence only, but NOW much more in my absence, work out your own SALVATION with fear and trembling. Written to BRETHREN who were already born again saved. Jesus worked out...
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    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    I believe His "free gift" cost me nothing to receive. But it cost Jesus His life, to 'give' it to me. :contemplate: Should people be raped into their earthly families? Saw it happen all the time. Especially in our last congregation which had an 'evangelist' instead of a 'pastor' for a leader...
  4. Hillsage

    The changing perception of hell. - How do you define it?

    #1. Hell is a word derived (most recently) from the Old English word hel or helle, which appeared around 725 AD to refer to a netherworld of the dead. But before the Old English, it came from the Proto-Germanic *haljō, which meant a "concealed place," and ultimately from the Proto-Indo-European...
  5. Hillsage

    At what point does a believer join the Body of Christ?

    Said the man who was looking in the rear view mirror at those behind, instead of the head on collision in his dirty windshield. I know BILLIONS have ended up in hell, here and now, when they opened their mouths in spiritual ignorance. YLT JAM 3:6* and the tongue {is} a fire, the world of...
  6. Hillsage

    At what point does a believer join the Body of Christ?

    Now God's talking about the pew warmers Jack. You just don't understand the difference between the salvation of your spirit versus the salvation of your soul. You had no more choice in being 'birthed' into your earthly family than you do your heavenly one. JOH 1:12 But as many as received...
  7. Hillsage

    At what point does a believer join the Body of Christ?

    ROM 3:10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; 11 no one understands, no one seeks for God. So many think that the Narrow gate is THEM getting THEMSELVES born again.....that is simply their error. They also say "I found Jesus!" My signature line below is my testimony. <><~~ I...
  8. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    I actually had coffee yesterday with a retired teacher who knew exactly how to do it. So he walked me through it, but unfortunately he still walked a lot faster than me. I told him I would have to play with it last night. But that came and went just like today. So I'm hoping to try again...
  9. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    So does your reading of "FAITH especially NOT from YOURSELVES,....but being..."the gift FROM God"...mean you NOW think the "the gift of God" isn't grace in this verse? I'm still not sure if you mean you have changed your mind, or you haven't. I'm especially interested because, just 3 verses...
  10. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    Your verses leave several closed doors available for me. "Faith OF Jesus" vs "faith IN Jesus". "Justification, Sanctification, Glorification. "imputed, declared, CREDITED righteousness vs. BEING (walking) in 'imparted' righteousness. And all of these above terms pertain to the progressive...
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    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    I really can't answer this. I just know that when I was trying to answer Lambano's post #61, according to the the "gift" of God , it never lined up with the fundamental rule of Greek grammar which I already knew, but was having difficulty applying it to these 2 verses. I actually went online...
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    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    I don't know your Greek expertise, but I did find this rather lengthly debate tonight, and offer it as a reason to maybe reconsider your opinion on Eph 2:8. The website was definitely beyond any degree where I would feel comfortable arguing. The quote below was from post #14...
  13. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    Thanks Jay, for your kind suggestion. I tried that before on my normal online Greek Interlinear URL (Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software). It looks 'similar' to your above. But when I pasted my URL here, it comes out like this below. Which is a mess to read IMO. And I'm...
  14. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    Lambano, I know this is hard to read, and it was a pain to type. But what I did type twice yesterday did not send as pasted, after I hit POST. Below is the URL for the website I used to parse Eph 2:8. https://www.greekbible.com/ephesians/2/8 line 1 is literal line 2 is Greek and line 3...
  15. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    That was the same question I asked myself. I just did a search on 'etymology of metric' and it sounds like the answer is definitely a yes for both the Greek and French word roots for 'metric'. So I am still of the opinion that we are not talking about a floating measurement of a meter or...
  16. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    I am still of the opinion that it is the same measure that anyone who comes to be born again gets. The definition seems pretty cut and dried to me. 3358 metron: a measure ("metre"), literally or figuratively.; by implication a limited portion (degree) And nobody has the faith to believe until...
  17. Hillsage

    Jesus is the Son of his God

    How do you explain it? I've never done so with a Muslim. And the only Jew I know, who gives me credit for her coming to the Lord, did so because of the questions I asked when I found out she was raised as a real Jew (her folks started Samsonite luggage). I never knew a born/raised Jew before...
  18. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    I can relate to how they feel toward "Christians". And it comes from how 'so called' "Christians" here, treat others who are also spirit-filled believers. :quitit
  19. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    All the translations I've checked say "measure of faith", which you said you like. But some translations say "the measure.." and some say "a measure...". Your #25 posted Greek interlinear actually added an (a) in their literal interpretation of the word 3358 metron. But the koine Greek only...
  20. Hillsage

    Is your faith defined by what you DON'T believe? - The anti-doctrinal stance

    You've thrown this 'bobber and bait' out for the 3rd time since last year....I'm going to nibble a bit this time. Hope you're OK with that. hlo It's recently been said here that; Do you agree with that statement, doctrine, opinion???? Whatever it is? I am going to say No, IN MY OPINION...