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  1. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I agree. But Jesus did not crush "all things" under His feet. He just inherited ALL the AUTHORITY to crush ALL THINGS. But the actual fulfillment of "crushing" he, that had the power of death. And that wasn't Satan it was the devil; "him that had the power of death the devil" Heb 2:14 is...
  2. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I too wondered about the Maji connection for years. DAN 1:1 In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah came Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon unto Jerusalem, and besieged it. 2 And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels of the house of God...
  3. Hillsage

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Bear with me @amigo de christo I agree with most everything you've said....here and in your next text. I believe Jesus would have exposed TRANSGRESSION and/or SIN. The difference is, being tempted, which may lead to sin; is not committing sin. HEB 4:15 For we have not a high...
  4. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    MAT 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand...
  5. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    And IF I AM A FELLOW BELIEVER. PLEASE Let me share what I feel....you have 'left out'. Are you accusing me of trespass or sin? If so, what is it? The rest of Jesus' teaching, which fulfills what you share above, took place in the garden. JOH 18:10 Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it...
  6. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Old news bro. :Broadly: I have 4 books of EW. But I studied the symbolism of every constellation in a monthly bible study which took 4 years, beginning in 1990. https://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/tablecontents.htm#THDEC THE HEAVENS DECLARE PSA 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God...
  7. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    To all, just something I'm gathering 'here', which has been taught incorrectly by most all of 'the church'. And it does not seem to be understood by some here IMO. GEN 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heavenS; and let us make us a...
  8. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    What "makes no sense" to me are; those who have never received the THIRD baptism of the great commission, and yet consider themselves spiritual. Another thing which makes no sense to me, are those who quote; "unity of spirit" totally out of context, thinking it means conformity to...
  9. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I used to believe that "ELEMENTS" was equating to the 'Periodic chart of elements'; which is referencing things 'materially speaking' OF the EARTH. None of which is contextual with everything in "the WORLD"/KOSMOS. which represents the orderly arrangements of governments ON the earth. Now, I...
  10. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Actually, the last "church" we went to fired my brother a year and a half ago, after being an 'elder' for 20 years. Long story, I won't go in to. Just saying my wife and I went to that church for 30 years; starting with the founding pastor. We quit for 8. Felt led to come back. We did and...
  11. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I'm so old that a lot of "Brethren" here consider me as pretty sour wine...theologically. Chkl:But that's OK, and it really kind of fits biblically, when they also want to crucify me; and according to the NKJV Jesus got "sour wine" on the cross. hps I held a view from the early 70's that I...
  12. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    You have said a number of intriguing things since I've recently returned to the forum (I'm older than you. :Broadly:) You are making me wonder just exactly what 'general' category you would say you fall in to, concerning 'how to interpret the book of "The Revelation". I have a Zodhiates Hebrew...
  13. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I don't believe; ""Protevangelium," the first gospel."" (quoting you above), was the first gospel in Gen 3:15. It was the CURSE for breaking the 'first covenant' of 'don't eat of the tree of good and evil'. They Adam/Eve both did eat, and they both lost immortality. IOW they both were going...
  14. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    I will start simply: Hopefully you can return the favor. ROM 2:7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; What's the difference between "Immortality" and "eternal life" in the above verse? Correct. His body and soul were in...
  15. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    The Hebrew word for "taken/took" is SRN 3947 lâqach/ law-kakh'; A primitive root; to take (in the widest variety of applications): - accept, bring, buy, carry away, drawn, fetch, get, infold, X many, mingle, place, receive (-ing), reserve, seize, send for, take (away, -ing, up), use, win. So...
  16. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    You have majored on a minor point above, IN MY OPINION. I deal with the difference in the Greek word used for "receive", which you have not mentioned. The Greek word for "receive" in Heb 11:3 is not DECOMAI, it is LAMBANO. [@lambano] And no one in this 'Faith list' ever had the chance to...
  17. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    MASTERS ?????? Are you talking about His teaching? If so you forgot to add an apostrophe; e.g. MASTER'S teaching. Or are you talking about OTHERS posting here? I gave 3 verses in that post. All agreeing with 'the Master' and His spirit leaving before his last breath. And Him also...
  18. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Got a verse to support your 'opinion' above? JAM 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, On the cross Jesus FIRST surrendered the Christ spirit unto the Father. LUK 23:46* Then Jesus, crying with a loud voice, said, "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" And HAVING said...
  19. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    GEN 5:23 Thus all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. You're right 'and he died' is missing. But so is 'what died' and 'what lived on' after those 365 years? I believe the body and the soul of Enoch were in the grave but his spirit was not? The phrase ”he was not“...
  20. Hillsage

    Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

    Not sure why you tagged me above....:contemplate: Actually this thread is moving so fast I'm a bit lost. :Broadly: I can't keep all the chess pieces straight on 'the board'. Oh well, I'll just throw something in here which you may or may not agree with because you mentioned soul sleep. I...