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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes if the Jews had stopped the temple sacrifices and accepted Jesus as their God and Messiah 70AD wouldn’t have happened that’s the whole point, judgment is based on human response. Do you really not see that? Luke 19 41 And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it, 42 saying...
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course, but don’t you think that them seeing that God removed it from them made them think what they did wrong? Why He did tha? Don,t you think that may of made some of them realize that Jesus was their God and Messiah?
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes thanks it’s really that easy I can’t explain it anymore to them and I can’t understand why they can’t grasp what I’m saying
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course, Christ put an end to it, but the physical act of sacrifices was still being carried out, what can't you get about that? And that actually happened the temple was destroyed that stopped it. That's why God destroyed the temple so that they could finally see there was no need for...
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read post #568 my reply to you? You guys aren't actually reading my post and saying what you think I believe and I don't I actualy said "this act from God brought a physical end to the Christ rejecting sacrifices."
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, I'm not assuming that every reference to Jerusalem, the temple, and stones must be interpreted literally, that's why I posted Mathew 23:37, of course Jesus was meaning apostate Israel when He said "“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to...
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm not laughing off anything; all I'm saying is that I believe that the Olivet Discourse was about the time leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the physical Old Testament way. The temple sacrifices carried on after the first advent which was a rejection of...
  8. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes within that generation
  9. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Matthew 23:37-Mathew 24:3 37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 See, your house is left to you desolate. 39...
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, my argument is that Jesus predicted that Jerusalem would be destroyed and when that would happen and it happened when Jesus said that it would happen, what else do I need? I don’t get it, this is the type of conversation I thought I would have trying to prove to someone that Jesus was God
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yet Jerusalem was destroyed when Jesus said that Jerusalem would be destroyed, I'll stick with that. By the way the city gate would be locked closed every Sabbath in biblical times in Jerusalem.
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read my whole post? I gave other reasons besides how many died and what Josephus said and even said that it wasn't about how many were killed what makes it the worst time in history. History proves the true meaning of biblical prophecy and the fact that destruction of Jerusalem...
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Josephus the Jewish historian who was sanctioned by Cesar to record the Roman siege records how it was the most brutal time in history, not only due to the numbers that were killed but of the horrifying events that took place within the city. Eleven out of every twelve people were killed 1.1...
  14. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The Olivet Discourse was a warning to the saints to flee the city before the destruction and a prediction of judgement upon Israel with a date attached to it proving that Jesus was God
  15. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Its about context in Rev 7:14 the subjects are the saint from every nation and in the Matthew 24 the context is apostate Israel but verse 9 the context are the saints, they are separated
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Again, why can't some of these be Jesus as Jesus is also God
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Why would you think the Father and not Jesus?
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes, but in Revelation 7:14 its tied to the martyred saints and in the Olivet Discourse there is the wrath of God tribulation upon apostate Isreal in which the saints were spared