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  1. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    No I do not. That has not been determined from the text. I am not.
  2. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    In the appropriate circumstances I have no objection to speaking to Jesus, but in regards to prayer, I follow Jesus' instruction and example of praying to the Father in Jesus' name.
  3. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    We agree that there is nothing wrong with praying to the Father. I would say that support for praying to the Father only is pretty strong. Aside from the direct instruction to do so, when Jesus prayed he also only ever prayed to the Father. After that, throughout the rest of the New Testament...
  4. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    Would you consider following the explicit instructions to pray to the Father in Matthew 6:6,9 drawing out principles of general spiritual realities and behaving like a Pharisee? I call it just being a Christian. When you discover such an instruction or convincing argument that displaces the...
  5. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    You are saying Jesus was "prayed" to when that isn't what it says at all. You quoted some verses about "calling upon" Jesus and "imploring" the Lord which doesn't even mention Jesus as who that Lord is. Let's take a quick look at each of your points. 1. In regards to Acts 7:59, 60, the main...
  6. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    He was just calling out to Jesus or addressing Jesus. Just addressing someone isn't a prayer is it? Here's a question, why does the word "pray" or "prayer" never appear in the Bible when they wrote about people speaking to Jesus?
  7. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    I wouldn't say that would be a prayer since speaking to someone in heaven isn't necessarily what defines a prayer. For example, Apostle John still on earth spoke to an elder in heaven in his vision in Revelation 7:13,14. Stephen, on earth, in his vision of Jesus, spoke to someone in heaven too...
  8. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    Directly addressing someone isn't how prayer is defined in the Bible though. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of instances in which others are called upon or directly addressed in the Bible so that doesn't really give the idea that Stephen "prayed" to Jesus. Where does the Bible...
  9. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    There is not a word for prayer there. I believe we cannot collapse all forms of communication down into prayer and disregard the nuances. Even if this was a prayer, it still isn't an instruction, i.e., "This is how you should pray..."
  10. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    If I may comment on this, the word "God" is missing from the Greek text of that verse. The version you provided is not accurate.
  11. Runningman

    The Bible doesn't instruct to pray to Jesus

    What is an instruction? An instruction may be defined as a direction or an explanation to enable one to know what to do, or to do something. An instruction can be a command, a piece of advice, training, an explanation, or a procedure. What is the only Biblical instruction on how to pray in the...
  12. Runningman

    Limited atonement is a false gospel

    I can't remember which board I saw it on (possibly this one) but a Calvinist said that is their goal. They want to go into churches and subtlely implant Calvinism step by step. I have seen strong opponents of Calvinism actually hold the same Calvinist beliefs they argue against. They just...
  13. Runningman

    God’s name….

    Where did you find that is something JWs believe? I am not sure myself. That might have been a forum error, or I just referenced the wrong person. I can't find any JW references that say this. That's a doctrinal difference. I'm a Christian, but I believe in Biblical Unitarianism if I were to...
  14. Runningman

    God’s name….

    If I may, that is not what she is saying. She isn't saying people atone for their own sins. Rather, the wages of sin of death. I am not a JW, but JW's believe that salvation is possible because of Jesus the Christ's ransom sacrifice. JWs are Christians and they are highly scripturally accurate...
  15. Runningman

    If I Were Building a Church for Satan… I'd Start Here

    I should have been clearer. Christianity is the New Covenant, but what has come to be called "mainstream Christianity" is itself a separate religion even though it is also called Christianity. I agree with what you said here.
  16. Runningman

    If I Were Building a Church for Satan… I'd Start Here

    I have not read the Scofield Reference Bible nor dabbled in Darby theology, (I am planning to skim through those today to see how bad they are) but it wouldn't surprise me that someone would come along and fiddle with the Bible a bit here and there. Another one I can think of off the top of my...
  17. Runningman

    God’s name….

    Technically the Bible never says to call on the name of Jesus to be saved. It says "Call on the name of the Lord to be saved" and it is quoted to an Old Testament verse where that Lord being called on isn't named Jesus. The New Covenant name for salvation hasn't changed or been replaced, but...
  18. Runningman

    God’s name….

    In accordance with the Son of God has a God, is in the image of God, is a representation of God, has a Savior, but the Father does not have a God, nor is in God's image, nor has a Savior. For He is already the one and only God.
  19. Runningman

    God’s name….

    Totally agree with everything you said, I just don't see that the Bible says that Son of God is his own God, Father, or Savior. Psalm 89 26He will call to Me, ‘You are my Father, my God, the Rock of my salvation.’ 27I will indeed appoint him as My firstborn, the highest of the kings of the...
  20. Runningman

    If I Were Building a Church for Satan… I'd Start Here

    Yes that is true. The New Covenant does do a bit of switching from an ethnic Israel to a spiritual Israel. Whereas in the Old Covenant there were some requirements to be an ethic Israelite, there were also some strict criteria for Gentiles who were proselytized into Judaism to be acceptable for...