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  1. Runningman

    If I Were Building a Church for Satan… I'd Start Here

    This sounds like the Catholic church but just think that Protestants are cut from the same cloth as the Catholics and still hold several of their core doctrines. Do you think that if the Catholics completely missed the mark, but Protestants still follow a lot of their teachings, that the...
  2. Runningman

    God’s name….

    When God is referred to explicitly by His name, it makes Him sound like He isn't the same person as Jesus, and not just a little bit, but a lotta bit. It's because they don't share the same names. However, long ago they most likely wanted take to make it less obvious. It is a pleasant surprise...
  3. Runningman

    Why are Christians leaving their churches?

    Interesting post. What I have seen is that sometimes are look for a reason to leave Christianity or the church, but completely converting to atheism seems more rare, though not unheard of. I am not sure there is a way to quantify that accurately, but I speculate if someone is already a theist...
  4. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    I believe you made an excellent point in your prior comment when you said "The Greek phrase καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος (“and the Word was God”) places theos first for emphasis. This is a well-known structure in Greek grammar to show nature, not identity. It’s not indefinite, it’s qualitative. John is...
  5. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    I know the conversation has gone a few different ways in this thread, but I would like to see if I can concisely address the points you made. I would like to say that I am not trying to change your mind or make you see it differently, but I do want to show that the Bible does say a lot about...
  6. Runningman

    The Church decided the canon. How do you know you have the correct canon?

    That's a good question. The Old Testament nor the New Testament neither directly nor explicitly identify the New Testament as being on par with holy writ Scripture the same way it does the OT. That isn't to say we should not consider the OT to be Scripture because I believe we should consider it...
  7. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    It's true that John 1:1 does say the Word is God "theos" with God "ton Theon" to show distinction between the Word as God and the definitive God as The God. There is a reason for why John worded it that way, of course, and it is because he didn't want anyone to misunderstand what he was saying...
  8. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    You have a great point. Who knows what else was said? There are apparently some lost letters and books of the Bible, too.
  9. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    You are digging deeper and that is a good mindset to have. So let's examine John 1:1,14 a little closer and possibly take a look at the other verses. So you believe that Jesus is that Word even though it doesn't directly call him the Word in this context and that the Word was with God. Did you...
  10. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    But what came down from heaven? John 6 50This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that anyone may eat of it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And this bread, which I will give for the life of the world...
  11. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    Well, Word (Logos) theology is kind of on an island alone in the Bible. I am not saying it's wrong, but only John ever wrote about it, but no one else even mentioned it. I don't say 3-4 verses about the Word are representative of all of Scripture. What's curious is John 1:1,14 and 1 John 1:1-3...
  12. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    Probably explains why the consensus is that Luke wrote Acts and the gospel of Luke. Luke is not an original apostle, but Luke wrote Acts not John and Peter. Acts 1 1In my first book, O Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach,
  13. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    That's true. Paul did teach that the Lordship of Jesus is temporary 1 Corinthians 15. I hope we all discover who the real Jesus is in this thread.
  14. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    And only God cannot be tempted with sin (James 1:13) yet the Bible says Jesus can be tempted in every way as we are. (Hebrews 4:15)
  15. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    Well, the fascinating thing about the Bible is that the authors were highly skilled at putting a lot of highly nuanced information into small areas. It's so nuanced that it requires a careful eye to really pick up on the context. So, while it's true that Hebrews 1:3 says what it says, it is also...
  16. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    Absolutely, but like I said in my previous posts, the Bible says a lot more things about the same subject, but it's all scattered around the Bible. While those verses seem to suggest a particular theology when they stand alone, there are additional verses that expand on them. I also believe we...
  17. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    I admit I am a bit of a Biblical literalist and tend to believe what it says mostly at face value unless a theological or non-literal explanation is required. I am not saying you’re wrong, but I just don’t agree with what you said at the beginning of your comment. The reason is because the Old...
  18. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    I do absolutely agree with the rest of what you said, but I admit I have a highly nuanced understanding of Jesus, and this will tie into my previous comment. In John 3:16-17, it's totally true that Jesus promised eternal life to those who believe in him. Amen! But now I will tie a point into my...
  19. Runningman

    Are You Following the Real Jesus—or a Counterfeit?

    I like to think we all believe that we believe in the real Jesus, but one of the things about the Bible in general is that it's easy to read a few verses here and there and not get a complete picture. There is a narrative and a story to all of it and the things that seem like they should have...
  20. Runningman

    Why faith alone? The answer...

    Sorry, i don't know what you believe exactly aside from that babies are not born sinners and that's great I agree.