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  1. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    I don't believe God made different plans for salvation. I believe He established the new covenant using Jesus and opened it up to the world for whosoever shall enter the new covenant. Covenants have rules, terms, conditions, and they can be broken. This is why the Bible describes salvation as...
  2. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    No, God doesn't force anyone to trust Him.
  3. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Yes Christianity is extremely divided on basic concepts such as salvation because some are mislead and deceived by people like John Calvin.
  4. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Yes and I am sure all 5 of those Christians will all say that Jesus or God has revealed the meaning of the word to them too. It is possible to believe one is on the correct path when they are not. Do you admit it's possible you got it all wrong? Here's a better question... which one of those...
  5. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    And all you need to do to be of the seed of Abraham is have faith, according to the Bible. It's open to anyone to be born again spiritually.
  6. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Sure. Any good lawyer can make the Bible appear to say something it really does not. This is where all of the heresies come from. The Bible can be represented in such a way so that the prosperity gospel seems valid when it actually is not. There is a way to use verses in such a way so as to...
  7. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    The problem with your commentary is that it is only stated by you and the Calvinists and not stated in the Bible. Which means your gospel is false and cannot save anyone. Amen!
  8. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Seems Matt and Luke remembered this differently. Surely there are some teachings by Jesus that suggest those who go astray can be lost.
  9. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Absolutely, God does pursue those who belong Him, but they can resist God. People can change, become unfaithful, start giving lip service, denying God, take the mark of the beast, etc. Of course God doesn't want that, but people can go astray. Jesus taught on this very matter, saying that sheep...
  10. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    I say amen to all of the verses you provide, but the controversy is with the commentary you provide about them.
  11. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Paul was telling this to Gentiles in Rome and elsewhere in the Roman empire. His point is that being a child of God, regardless of being male or female, and regardless of ethnicity, is through faith in Christ Jesus. Being of the seed of Abraham is for anyone. All you need to do is have faith...
  12. Runningman

    Limited atonement is a false gospel

    You're totally right that Jesus said he will lose none. Totally right. After that, Judas was lost. We know this much. As far as elected to service, I don't think election to service is related to the eternal life Jesus says he gives to those who are given to him. I also think the election to...
  13. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Yet we still have the Bible explicitly stating that salvation is offered to all. John 3 16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and onlye Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world...
  14. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Jesus gives eternal life to those who are given to him and Judas was given to him and lost. Limited atonement isn't compatible with Scripture. John 17 3Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent. 9I ask on their behalf. I do not ask...
  15. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    Which verse says that.
  16. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    He said "if he finds it" (the sheep) so what does that mean to you since quoting it verbatim from the Bible seems to be offensive to you. If doesn't suggest a condition?
  17. Runningman

    Limited atonement is a false gospel

    Jesus didn't make any such distinction did he? I am not aware of any examples.
  18. Runningman

    Limited atonement is a false gospel

    Why should I not mix the verse about Judas being given to Jesus with the verse about Jesus giving eternal life to those given to him?
  19. Runningman

    Limited atonement !

    That's Jesus' teaching. I am not shocked you would call his teachings blasphemy. I am simply repeating what he said. Are you sure you are on the right side?
  20. Runningman

    Limited atonement is a false gospel

    Yes, but also elected to salvation. Jesus said he gives eternal life to those God gives him. John 6 70Jesus answered them, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!” John 17 2For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You...