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  1. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    I think that’s probably true. As a pastor (retired) I’m doing what I can to persuade Christians that they shouldn’t / mustn’t kill fellow Christians. What makes you think I could get them to give up something that they were determined not to give up? What I would do in the scenario is...
  2. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    I’m a pacifist. Neither one. That’s absurd.
  3. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    As you know, I trace my spiritual roots back to the 1st century through the Anabaptists. For Anabaptists (and the earliest Christians), pacifism - not to be confused with passivism - is a major issue in Anabaptism. Blessed are the peacemakers. Why would any follower of Jesus not want to...
  4. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    I answered. I couldn’t care less what you think about @Wrangler. What I wanted to know is where you stand on his teaching. (I told you where I stand on it.) See the multiple threads on the Crusades. I answered your original question -> “Yes, I do.” I then pointed out that when they do they...
  5. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    Read my posts. Read my posts. Read my posts. Why? It’s the teaching of @Wrangler, and it has received support from members who are registered here as “Christian”. I’ve opposed it vigorously. (I’m not looking for support from you; just interested in what you think about it.) My...
  6. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    I’ve answered your question hundreds of times. (Yes, they do.) When they do, they’re not following the teaching and example of Jesus and the apostles. I asked you a question that you failed to answer.
  7. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    “You are not following Jesus if you aren’t armed, ready to kill.” What do you say about that?
  8. Matthias

    QUOTE for the day

    “Delight in God has a transforming power.” - C.H. Spurgeon
  9. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    Those are good observations. I agree that Christians have a wide variety of astonishing reasons and reasoning for harming and killing Christians. What do you think Jesus thinks about his followers harming and killing one another?
  10. Matthias

    Church, State, and the idea of a “Christian nation”

    “What is a ‘Christian nation?’ … This is a delicate subject. We have to choose our words carefully if we’re to avoid being misunderstood. We also have to take special pains to ensure that our thoughts are in line with the teaching of Scripture. And the very first thing that needs to be said is...
  11. Matthias

    The happy thread

  12. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    Are there any examples in the New Testament of followers of Jesus harming or killing one another that we can examine?
  13. Matthias

    The happy thread

  14. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    Thanks. I was referring to any scenario at all. If I’m understanding you correctly - and please correct me if I’m not - you would point to the NT Book of Hebrews as justification for followers of Jesus to kill fellow followers of Jesus. A follow-up question for clarification: Do you think...
  15. Matthias

    Biblical justification for harming or killing followers of Jesus

    What biblical justification, if any, is there for followers of Jesus to harm or kill fellow followers of Jesus?