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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    An arrogant assumption and bizarre non sequitur. Modern English translations are not the original text; they are interpretations of the Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic. By quoting an English Bible, you are already relying on someone else’s exegesis and translation decisions, just as using a lexicon...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    The lexical information from blueletterbible is from Strong’s concordance and Thayer’s lexicon. It doesn’t seem you are aware of this either, as in one instance you claim blueltterbible is a reliable source but also “who is Thayers……” You are one that quoted from Thayer’s originally in 327 as...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Right, the meaning, according to Thayer, is in my posts - Matthew 24:34 is explicitly listed under the definition “whole multitude living at the same time”. It does NOT list the definition and usage of genea, in the context of Matthew 24:34, under “family of same stock”. But you don’t agree...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    I agree that lexicons show a broad range of meanings for words. That’s not really the issue. The discussion is how to use a lexicon correctly. A word does not carry all of its meanings in every context. In other words, a lexicon shows the specific definition and usage within a certain context...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    We have talked multiple times about what lexicon you use that has Matthew 24:34 listed under the definition “family of same stock”? That’s definitely not true. My only recollection is you using Thayers incorrectly by cherry picking it, all while ignoring that Thayers defines genea in the...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    all these strawman arguments aside, what lexical resource do you use for position in how genea should be understood? I would be very interested in which lexicon states Genea should be understood as “family of same stock” or race in Matthew 24:34, if you could provide?
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Strawman arguments often can be convincing.
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    1.) Strong's Concordance contains a "defintion" or gloss/sense. For genea, it has multiple glosses/sense - generation, age, nation, time: γενεά geneá, ghen-eh-ah'; from (a presumed derivative of) G1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):—age, generation, nation...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Haha no worries! Basically a concordance tells you what English word the Greek was translated into and where to find. A lexicon will often provide a more comprehensive definition, and assign verses to said definition. So for example, thayer’s lexicon lists several definitions for genea...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    This doesn’t address the OP. Try again.
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    This has nothing to do with the OP. The OP is about correctly using a concordance and lexicon. What resource are you using to understand the Greek word genea?
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Without using any sort of tool, resource, or aide, can you please tell me what this says or means by simply AND only praying to the Spirit for Him to reveal it to you? “πολλοὶ γάρ εἰσιν κλητοὶ ὀλίγοι δὲ ἐκλεκτοί” unless your native language is first century koine Greek or God has just...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Doesn’t really matter about your subjective opinion that it’s REQUIRED to be understood in a broader sense , as objectively there are NT translations that translate ge as “land”, lexicons omit Matthew 24:30 from a broader context, and many theological commentaries argue it can mean land in that...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Just like people, ChatGPT can also unintentionally misrepresent an argument. The OP never states that thayers is the absolute authority on genea meaning generation in Matthew 24:34. The OP is about using a lexicon correctly. Words often have multiple possible meanings, and a good lexicon...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Your condescending remarks aside, I was simply highlighting the correct way to use concordances and lexicons, albeit with a more controversial word. I was hoping for more of a response as to why the OP is wrong, as opposed to just personal insults.
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    Actually, I would argue preterism fails at this as well. We all need to do a better job at learning how to use lexicons and concordances appropriately. For example, I know I have, and maybe you have seen this to, but the word for "about to be"....Preterists will argue Paul said the...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    nothing is sure, but we still rely on many people to translate the Bible from Greek into English.
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    I never asserted genea must mean generation in Matthew 24:34 solely because Thayers said so. The argument was not intended to be an appeal to authority. The argument was that IF you are going to appeal to Strong’s or Thayer’s, or any lexicon, concordance, or dictionary, know how use it...
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    γενεά geneá and the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer

    A Bible concordance is a word index for the Bible. It shows every verse where a particular word appears so you can easily find passages. For example, the online version of strongs concordance, from bluetterbible, shows where and how γενεά geneá is translated in English in the KJV: “KJV...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    No………it’s why I stated in post 338 “copied from blue letter Bible” in regards to strong’s concordance and thayer’s lexicon. I don’t think you do. If you understood how to use Thayer’s lexicon correctly, you wouldn’t have applied definition 2b (“race”) to γενεά in Matthew 24:34. Thayer does...