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  1. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Call the 7 yr covenant of the AC whatever suits you. The prewrath, .. midtrib 7 yr trib gathereing Is Rev 14:14. The AC starts, ratifies, makes, confirms, a 7 yr treaty and breaks it mid trib.
  2. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    You said all that while OMITTING that mat 24 coming is in POWER AND GREAT GLORY. The post 7 yr trib coming of rev 19 is in power and great glory. The mid 7 yr trib ( prewrath and posrib coming as you like to put it) is Rev 14:14. ABSOLUTELY 2 DIFFERENT DYNAMICS. THEY WILL NOT BLEND INTO...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Here is the written word of God in Hebrew in dan 9, and the transliteration in English. כז וְהִגְבִּיר בְּרִית לָרַבִּים, שָׁבוּעַ אֶחָד; וַחֲצִי הַשָּׁבוּעַ יַשְׁבִּית זֶבַח וּמִנְחָה, וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים מְשֹׁמֵם, וְעַד-כָּלָה וְנֶחֱרָצָה, תִּתַּךְ עַל-שֹׁמֵם. {פ} 9:27 And he shall make...
  4. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    No The ac makes a 7 yr treaty. In the middle of it, he inaugurated the AOD. Your model has the ac with a different arrival and the AOD starting the arrival.
  5. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    If You think Jesus comes in power and great glory prewrath then you believe the white horse arrival is prewrath. Read the description in Rev 19 of Jesus coming in power and great glory. Ahem...it is NOT "prewrath". It is POST 7YR TRIB. Then read the MID TRIB, MID 7 YR GATHERING , "prewrath"...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Post one where Jesus SAID he comes on a white horse.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    No rapture verse has Jesus coming in power and great glory. No rapture verse has the white horses. Yes. Jesus comes "prewrath" as you put it. Pretrib is also prewrath. If you think mat 24 coming is in power and great glory, why so you then go against the word where Jesus comes AFTER THE 7 YR...
  8. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Exactly. Once the bride/bridegroom prism is out of the picture, and end times is framed by opinion, and "interpretation via omission" that bible can say pretty much whatever I torture it to say.
  9. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Jewish site claims the AC MAKES a covenant 7 yr covenant/ treaty ( by the way).
  10. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  11. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    You have a totally different timetable based on a strict definition of "trib", "great trib" , and "wrath". It does not work for several reasons. In Matthew 24, it says Jesus comes in power and great glory after the tribulation. So that makes a problem right there because. When we do the strict...
  12. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    That word " confirm" in Hebrew is ONLY used once as "confirmed"...and that instance is Dan 9:27. All other times it is used as "prevail" After some investigation, the REASON is because "covenant" in that verse refers to "treaty". The AC ratifies ( confirms) a treaty. Ratification can happen...
  13. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    "He" That is what it says. "He" .....the AC
  14. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Here is the written word of God in Hebrew in dan 9, and the transliteration in English. כז וְהִגְבִּיר בְּרִית לָרַבִּים, שָׁבוּעַ אֶחָד; וַחֲצִי הַשָּׁבוּעַ יַשְׁבִּית זֶבַח וּמִנְחָה, וְעַל כְּנַף שִׁקּוּצִים מְשֹׁמֵם, וְעַד-כָּלָה וְנֶחֱרָצָה, תִּתַּךְ עַל-שֹׁמֵם. {פ} 9:27 And he shall...
  15. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    " .....in the middle of it he sets up the AOD." In the middle of what? In the MIDDLE OF THE 7 YR COVENANT. 7 YEARS. You are making an elaborate change of the bible by emphasis of "trib is not great trib" and "wrath" timetable is what I say it is is And..." there is no 7 yr period of...
  16. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Your opinion .
  17. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    3.5 years INTO THE COVENANT, the AC makes the AOD. It is not some abstract covenant and timetable that somebody personally ascribes outside the AC arrival.
  18. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    Yes. It thinks out as it reads. The AC is the white horse ride. His arrival in power, killing and ruling, starts the 7 yr trib. 3.5 yrs later you have the AOD. After another 3.5 yrs Jesus returns with the saints. It thinks out perfectly.
  19. rebuilder 454

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Postrib corner. The supper is in heaven. It all points to heaven. Every associated verse points to the wedding in heaven. I see this so often. Once folks deviate from the word, the apologies become more and more bizarre.
  20. rebuilder 454

    The "watch rapture view"

    It says he is cut off after 3.5 yrs. Exactly as it happened. Jesus ministry was cut off. And he ascended up to heaven. It says the AC makes a 7 yr covenant and halfway through he makes the AOD. YOU, and The Light, say the bible is incorrect.