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  1. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    Sorry, but the only thing scripture says or implies is that at the 7th trump, the wrath of the Lamb is over. God's wrath doesn't even begin until a little after Rev. 14:7 "for the hour of His (God's) judgment "is come". The phrase "is come" is used a few times in Rev. and it is in the...
  2. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    The barley harvest was April-May and the wheat harvest was June-July so Pentecost is after the barley harvest and at the beginning of the wheat harvest.
  3. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    The same "time frame" would be the healthy corn and thin corn growing together in "one" period of seven yrs. This actually proves my point of things being 'separate" from each other. The 7 good years and the 7 bad years are 'not" the same seven years.
  4. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    The feasts of new wine and another of new oil aren't in scripture. Both Deut. 18 and Neh. 10 are talking about them as tithes and offerings to those who have temple duties, not in relation to feasts.
  5. Trekson

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    I already did, believe what you want. 1 Co. 15:2 doesn't back OSAS. Eph. 1:13, being sealed is like a contract, if do your part God promises to do his part. God will never break it but the believer can. If one isn't ready to die for their faith and accepts the mark of the beast, they have become...
  6. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    I don't believe they are the same. I believe they are separate as the judgments are not the same or in the same order. Those that are similar change in degree of intensity from 1/3 to "all". That would be like saying we had a season of mild hurricanes one year and the next year we had many more...
  7. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    The feast of new wine isn't actually spoken about in scripture. The feast of weeks is called that because it is seven weeks (49 days) from the feast of first fruits, not Passover, check your sources. The next day, the 50th day since firstfruits is Pentecost because that means the "50th". Shavuot...
  8. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    Sorry, but Pentecost is 50 days after the feast of weeks, not Passover. The 1/3 of Israel that will be saved are part of those of Rev. 12:14, well before Christ's actual arrival. It's the a/c's setting up the AoD in Rev. 13:14-15 that opens their spiritual eyes. The Qumran scroll is "not"...
  9. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    That is one opinion, I have one of my own that I'm still working on, Why should we skip Rev. 12 and what about cps/ 17 & 18?
  10. Trekson

    What are Israel's End Time Beliefs?

    What gets me is how people can read verses like…: Matt. 24:24 - "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." …then turn around and believe that a blood-thirsty...
  11. Trekson

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    If a former believer loses their faith it is by their choice, not God's, and actions speak louder than words. How about the words of Christ in Matt. 7:22-23?
  12. Trekson

    Revelation 12 walk through

    The only stars Christ calls angels are the individual pastors of the 7 churches. That def. not apply to any other star mentioned.
  13. Trekson

    Revelation 12 walk through

    Rev. 12:6 is a preview of Rev. 12:14 and vss. 7-13 are the events leading up to it. Rev. 12:17 is the church.
  14. Trekson

    Revelation 13:12 says "everyone on earth, will be forced to worship the beast", does that mean everyone on earth needs to repent? (refuse to repent?)

    It's not a matter of "losing it" as if Christ takes it away. A believer can return it or give it back in a variety of scenarios. 1 Pet. 4:17-20 speaks about judgment beginning w/ the church and many will fail because they do "love their life" and are not willing to die for Christ. This will be...
  15. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    You are correct and so is the 70th week for the Jews. However, the facts are undeniable Christ fulfilled all the spring feasts, Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits and Weeks. Pentecost was fulfilled on the 50th day when the HS, came but the church is still enjoying the fruits of the Holy...
  16. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    No, it's not. The events of the 7th trump ends w/ the first vial. They are all sequential. 7th seal = 1st trump, 7trump = 1 vial, 7th vial = Armageddon. Just saying, biblically the seven trumps are the wrath of the Lamb, Rev. 6:17 and the 7 vials are the wrath of God, Rev. 16:1. Since the bible...
  17. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    They are all still future although another WW would be a woe in it's own way, it wouldn't be one of the three woes in the prophetic context.
  18. Trekson

    The Third Woe

    Yes, thank you!