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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Seems like you think if you said something, then that makes it a biblical fact. That is not the way it works. The Bible does not say what you say above. That is what you have been taught. It is a single climactic event. It is the end of the world. Amils take 2 Peter 3:8-13 literally: “But...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    It seems like you're a master at adding onto Scripture. This passage proves the coming of Christ is the end. It forbids Pretrib. Paul confirms the finality of the return of Jesus, in 1 Corinthians 15:22-24, stating, “as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    The 144,000 are the firstfruits not the last fruits as you have been falsely taught.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    All mankind from the beginning is either found to be in one of two camps - saved or lost. There is no other company. There has never been any other salvation apart from that found "in Christ." Those that reject Him are found "in Adam." The elect “in Christ" in the Old Testament looked forward to...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    You are all over the place. One of your posts contradicts the next. Old Testament Israel was the ekklesia in the Old Testament and the New Testament ekklesia is true elect believing Israel today. You have no answer to the biblical evidence presented. All you have is what you have been taught...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Jesus identifies “the end” with His “coming” (including the passing away of the current heavens and earth) in Matthew 24:35-44. Paul does the same in 1 Corinthians 15:12-14, 21-24. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:9 supports this. It shows that “the coming of the Lord” ushers in “sudden” and total...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Ok. So the age of the "called out ones" is both OT and NT, as I said?
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    What i quoted referred to the old ceremonial system involved in the old covenant.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    LOL. So, you have nothing! The Church has been on the go since Adam the OT. The problem with what you have been taught is that you fail to see the existence of the Church in the Old Testament, despite it being found 77 times in the Greek Old Testament - Septuagint (LXX) – which Christ and the...
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    The English word “for ever” (or “forever”) means everlasting or eternal. It means something that never ends. It denotes endless, ceaseless, perpetual, undying, unbroken, unending, and interminable. But was this exactly what God was promising Abraham in regard to the land of Canaan in Genesis...
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    What is your understanding of the word "forever"? What is your definition of it?
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    The literal straightforward meaning of the word owlam in the Old Testament was “time out of sight” (past or present). This is reinforced by the amount of Old Testament promises and practices that had owlam attached to them that have now come to an end. The old covenant land promise is just one...
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    More avoidance. You cannot handle the truth.
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    SETTLING THE FALSE THEORY OF REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY

    The Hebrew word that Premils use to argue for an everlasting possession of the land is owlam. Strong’s says: `owlam (o-lawm’); or `olam (o-lawm’) means “properly, concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e. (practically) eternity; frequentatively...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    What He is saying is that none of these things carry any spiritual weight today.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Scripture describes the old covenant sacrificial system as “that which is done away” (2 Corinthians 3:11) and “that which is abolished” (2 Corinthians 3:13). It makes clear: “the old testament … vail is done away in Christ" (2 Corinthians 3:14). Hebrews 10:9 confirms: “He taketh away the first...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    You are avoiding again. That seems to be your pattern. Where does the Bible state "the church age"?
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    More avoidance! Where does the Bible describe "the church age"? You seem incapable of addressing the numerous flaws in your theology. Christ has fulfilled/abolished the old covenant.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    That has nothing to do with anything I said. I was refuting your spiritual apartheid.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Where? It is time to abandon the old covenant. It has gone forever. Where does the Bible describe "the church age"? Nowhere! You make it up as you go. There is one Lord, one people of God, one salvation and one eternal destiny.