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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    No you did not answer anything. That is your pattern. You make it up as you go. Your attempt at spiritual apartheid has blew up in your face.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Not true! I will repeat 1 question you avoided. Please address: Show us Scripture, and supporting Scripture, including in Revelation 20, or anywhere else in the Bible, the teaches what you are promoting that "Israel will be the church on earth during the millennial dispensation, while the...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Can you address the avoided rebuttals above that forbid your argument?
  4. W

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    It doesn't matter to him. He is incapable of supporting any of his claimswith hard Scripture. If he says it, that is enough.
  5. W

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Where does he mention the millennium here?
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    What covenant applies to us Gentiles then? You have the old covenant relating exclusively to the Jews. You have the new covenant relating exclusively to the Jews. The reality is, the new covenant relates to all men, not just physical Israel. You are butchering Scripture to support your error...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Who are we spiritually joined to? Who are we grafted into? What fold did the NT Church enter into?
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Show us Scripture, and supporting Scripture, including in Revelation 20, or anywhere else in the Bible, the teaches what you are promoting that "Israel will be the church on earth during the millennial dispensation, while the church of the previous dispensation will be in heaven"? I will not...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    I addressed this and rebutted your opinions in post 45. But as seems to be your pattern, you avoided it.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    True Israel is - that is us today. We are the spiritual children of Abraham. We are the real Jews. We are the circumcision. We are the ones that are located in Zion today. You need to read the New Testament and see that that is a repeated New Testament truth. Race means nothing today. You need...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    This is all your opinions. That is all you have. It is time to actually show hard Scripture that teaches your opinion and which corroborates it. Good luck with doing that with Premil!
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Israel is not the central focus of Scripture, Jesus is. To think otherwise is gross ignorance and underlying idolatry (elevating someone or something over God). Think about this: we are talking about the central theme of the inspired pages. Anyway, the followers of Jesus are the apple of God’s...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    BREAKING NEWS: the old covenant is abolished - in full. It has been completely replaced by a better covenant. It will never again raise its head. It is time to move into the NT. The old covenant is gone forever. It is not the Jewish nation that matters. It is all about sinners in all nations...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    The first principle of evidence is: “he who alleges, must prove.” You think if you make a statement like "Israel will be the church on earth during the millennial dispensation, while the church of the previous dispensation will be in heaven" then that makes it a fact. It is not. You have proved...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Amen! He butchers every text he presents and forces his theology into the inspired text after text. That is because he is presenting an unbiblical view.
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    You are twisting Scripture. Jesus said, speaking to His Jewish converts, in John 10:14-16, “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    The King James Version renders Romans 11:25: “blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” It means that a remnant of Israel is saved and the rest are blinded while the fulness of the Gentiles comes in. When is the fulness of the Gentiles come in...
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    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Not so. At the core of Dispensationalist teaching is the belief that God has got two distinct peoples on planet earth. They believe He has an earthly people and a heavenly people. They think His earthly people are ethnic Israel and His heavenly people are the New Testament Church. This apartheid...