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  1. Wick Stick

    GENESIS CREATION CHALLENGE: Can you teach it without changing words and contradicting yourself? Doubtful.

    The meaning of numbers isn't so tough understand. They're often literal, but when they're not... "Three" expresses the idea of "few" or "not many." "Twelve" is the opposite idea - "a great number" or "many." This is on display in the accountings of the battles Israel had. Whenever they take...
  2. Wick Stick

    GENESIS CREATION CHALLENGE: Can you teach it without changing words and contradicting yourself? Doubtful.

    Mankind has more than one nature. We all have two, and they don't agree. Romans 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. It isn't only the Bible that says so. The Greek philosophers...
  3. Wick Stick

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    I don't think there's a way to really tell. Ehrman was one of (perhaps the most?) respected Biblical scholar in the world for some time. Certainly his life and energies were spent in service of understanding the Bible. That he ultimately rejected the existence of a benevolent God is troubling.
  4. Wick Stick

    GENESIS CREATION CHALLENGE: Can you teach it without changing words and contradicting yourself? Doubtful.

    Yikes. I've run up against 'guilty by association' arguments, too. That sucks. Hmmm... don't agree that "the planet is set for termination." As I see it, the Lord has taken over management and will eventually bring the world to a state of perfection. I can understand why people would have a...
  5. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    The idea of oral transmission is mostly a fiction. Israel had scribes even during the Exodus.
  6. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    You're probably right. The fact that David refers to "the Law" probably means that it was lost sometime after his reign. But it WAS lost. And later found... the Bible says so... 2Kings 22:8 And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the...
  7. Wick Stick

    GENESIS CREATION CHALLENGE: Can you teach it without changing words and contradicting yourself? Doubtful.

    There's a lot to unpack here. Forgive me if I don't respond to everything. I will ignore things we agree on, and focus on differences. Forgive me for being disagreeable. :) REAL GENEALOGY is a problem, rather than a benefit. Paul teaches that genealogies are useless... no, worse than...
  8. Wick Stick

    Doctrine as a god - bow down before the one you serve...

    Were you thinking of Head like a Hole when you wrote that?
  9. Wick Stick

    GENESIS CREATION CHALLENGE: Can you teach it without changing words and contradicting yourself? Doubtful.

    The challenge is wrong-headed. Genesis 1:1 - 2:4 is a single composition. The phrase "these are the generations of the heavens and the earth" is a toledoth statement - a title that appears at the bottom of a scroll or tablet to identify it. That's its name. Genesis 2:5 starts an entirely new...
  10. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    From my perspective, I was asking a question... and I don't have an answer to that question, so I'm not trying to insert some theology there. But I don't think David had exactly the same Genesis-Deuteronomy that we have today.
  11. Wick Stick

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Wikipedia knows!
  12. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    I wonder what Law David was looking at? Modern scholars think that Deuteronomy was lost and not re-discovered til the reign of Josiah. Well, the Bible says so... Likewise, Exodus and Numbers are thought to have been compiled later based on texts we no longer have. The stories in Genesis...
  13. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    Yes, Paul and Jesus preach the same gospel. We agree.
  14. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    That would be an absurd interpretation. That isn't what's happening here. What's happening here is that Doug, the original poster, believes in a theory of two gospels. He would like all of us to abandon the gospel of Jesus in favor of the gospel of Paul, as proclaimed by Doug. To that end...
  15. Wick Stick

    IF YOU ONLY FOLLOW JESUS THEN YOU MUST KEEP THE LAW

    Reminds me of something else in Matthew... Matthew 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers.
  16. Wick Stick

    Why are Bible scholars leaving Christianity?

    Who are you thinking of? Bart Ehrman, who has been discussed at some length, has said in interviews that he no longer believes in God. So, no presumption necessary for that one.
  17. Wick Stick

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I'm about 50/50 on whether it was meant to be humour. Ridiculousness may have been intended
  18. Wick Stick

    Can God be insulted?

    I think we put it down to unrepentance. Repentance is sort of the requirement for forgiveness in the Bible... and by repentance I mean agreement with God, or acquiescence to His rule.
  19. Wick Stick

    Can God be insulted?

    In Mark 3, the verse about unforgiveness comes after the Pharisees say that Jesus has "an unclean spirit." So, they are insulting the Holy Spirit. It very much fits the idea of blasphemy (saying not-so-nice things about someone). Hebrews 6 seems to have a different idea. There, those who...