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  1. Pilgrimer

    Three Days and Three Nights

    Thank you for that insight Nomad but I'm afraid for the ESV text to be accurate it must include "ouketi" in the translation, which it does not. Ouketi is from "ou" (no, never) and "keti" (henceforth, hereafter). Therefore a correct rendering would be: Luk 22:16 For I tell you I will "not...
  2. Pilgrimer

    Three Days and Three Nights

    Hello Zeke and thank you for the lengthy response. However, the assumptions you have made are not correct. My beliefs are not based on the teachings of others, canned or otherwise. They are the fruit of my own years of study of the Scripture as well as New Testament history and archaeology in...
  3. Pilgrimer

    Three Days and Three Nights

    But you are reading into their words things they did not say. They did not say that Sunday was the third day since Jesus was buried. They said that day was the third day since the chief priests and their rulers had delivered Jesus to be condemned to death and crucified. Jesus was arrested on...
  4. Pilgrimer

    NOAH sounds like a good movie

    I've heard there was some controversy about the movie and the producers were forced to issue a clarification that the movie was not actually "based on" the account in the Bible but was "inspired by" the Biblical account, which is usually a nice way of saying they put some kind of spin on the...
  5. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Hi Sweet Pea, I have a little time and wanted to elaborate on my answer about the source of all this "Christianity borrowed from paganism" claims that are so popular and all over the internet. I won’t offer a complete critique of Hislop’s book, but since you inquired about the source of many of...
  6. Pilgrimer

    Are babies born without sin

    Flesh, in and of itself, is not sinful, sinfulness is a moral condition, not physical. Physically babies are born as mortal human beings, meaning their bodies are subject to the process of corruption that all flesh is subject to, ergo, from the moment of conception they are on an inevitable...
  7. Pilgrimer

    The coming 4 Blood moons...what's it mean?

    Taking Scripture out of context is a very dangerous and misleading basis for interpreting prophecy, but it does sell a lot of books. http://bibleprophecytalk.com/bpt-blood-moon-theory-debunked-and-more/ In Christ, Pilgrimer
  8. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    That is true. The anti-Catholic Hislop who credited the Roman Catholic Church with the “adoption” of Christmas from pagans under Constantine did not realize, not actually being an historian, that it was in fact the Coptic Church of Alexandria Egypt, founded in 42 A.D. by Mark the Evangelist...
  9. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Because there are a many sects and groups and individuals who have an agenda … to discredit Christianity. It’s not new, and what motivates each of them is as varied as the people themselves, but with the advent of the internet and the anonymity it allows anti-Christian sects and groups and...
  10. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    That’s true, but the only people Jesus did not treat with love and compassion were the arrogant, self-righteous Scribes and Pharisees who took great pride in the fact that they followed the law to the letter and anyone who did not believe and live as they did they considered beneath them …...
  11. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    lol.
  12. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Continue from previous ... Then I think that is regrettable FHII. Here is the evidence which you say you cannot take seriously: 1. Biblical evidence of a shepherd being in the fields with his sheep year round in a location 400 miles north and therefore colder than in Bethlehem. 2. Biblical...
  13. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Let me make a couple of comments before I address your points. I think it would be fair and reasonable to ask that if you expect Christians to toss out a date which Christendom has held as that of the birth of Jesus, officially for almost 1700 years, and one that three different Christians...
  14. Pilgrimer

    The rest of the Christmas story ...

    Christmas doesn't end with the birth of Jesus, although certainly that is the high point of the nativity story. But on the 8th day of life Jesus was circumcised, the anniversary of which is coming up on Thursday, January 1. Then on the 40th day is the anniversary of Mary's purification and the...
  15. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Counterpoint of information ... January 7 on the Gregorian calendaris December 25 on the Julian calendar ... Thus, the whole universal Church celebrates Christmas on December 25. In Christ, Pilgrimer
  16. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    To me Christmas is special regardless of what I might do. It is the day when the whole church worldwide shares the celebration of the birth of Jesus, and one of the ways we do is worship in song, after the example of the angels … http://youtu.be/ToUUcCtJNPQ In Christ, Pilgrimer
  17. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    I would like to add to a comment I made in my previous post and make two corrections. The first correction is that the photo of the mound (tell) which was once ancient Haran was not taken in December, but in January which is actually colder than December. And yet obviously there are sheep in...
  18. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    That’s what these discussion generally determine. I don’t think it’s exactly honest to point to a ski resort 150 miles north in the Golan Heights on Mt. Hermon which is 9000 feet above sea level … and what? that’s supposed to tell us something about the weather conditions in Bethlehem? I mean, I...
  19. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    FHII, as I have said, I am a very honest person, and that includes not telling half truths. The picture you googled of a snowman on the Temple Mount would probably have been taken last January, when Jerusalem was hit with a rare snowstorm that dumped from 4 to 12 inches in northern Israel and...
  20. Pilgrimer

    Christmas

    Take just a couple of minutes to stand in Manger Square on Christmas Eve and look around. Notice how the people are dressed, children in long sleeves, people in light weight jackets. What you don't see is people bundled up against harsh, freezing temperatures and trudging through several feet of...