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  1. Pilgrimer

    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    Hello Wormwood, and my apologies for the long delay in responding, I’m afraid sometimes life gets in the way of things I’d much rather be doing … But let me ask you to take a look at your comment above and hear me out for a moment. I think there’s something you are leaving out. The judgment...
  2. Pilgrimer

    Spiritual Abuse and Christmas Trees

    And I find it bothersome that you would judge others by a law which you yourself refuse to live by. If you are subject to the Law, you are subject to all the Law, not just parts you have decided people have to adhere to while you cast aside the rest. And I must ask why we Christians should be...
  3. Pilgrimer

    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    I disagree. I think spiritual discernment is precisely what Paul was talking about, as he points out, “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, for they are spiritually discerned …” and Paul goes on to say to...
  4. Pilgrimer

    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    The “we” is those who are spiritually mature in Christ, as opposed to those who are “babes” who are not yet able to bear the strong meat of the spiritual aspect of the coming of Jesus and God’s Kingdom. The popular interpretation of the feasts is an example of that difference. Wormwood, it seems...
  5. Pilgrimer

    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    Actually Sanhedrin, I think that’s pretty accurate. It’s certainly what Paul taught: “Howbeit, we speak wisdom among them that are [mature]: yet not the wisdom of the world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought; But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden...
  6. Pilgrimer

    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    I would certainly agree that the authors of the Gospels intended for those who read the Gospels to be convinced by those things which they reported that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. But where I have a problem is that on the one hand you concede that there is historical context to the...
  7. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    I'll try to look in and join the discussion, but let me offer a final comment on our discussion here. I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on whether or not the judgment of Israel was because of their past sins. Jesus himself condemned the scribes and Pharisees saying that the blood of all the...
  8. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    I’ll have to respond to most of your post this evening, but I had to offer a quick comment on the above. I’m afraid I don’t agree with that. The Gospels are not literary works, they are historical documents that record the life, deeds, and teachings of Jesus. Matthew didn’t record events based...
  9. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    Generally when we talk about context we’re referring to the immediate time and circumstances in which an event occurs or a teaching is given. Chapter 5 says virtually nothing about laying down one’s life for Christ either, but that’s generally not used by students as the context for a passage in...
  10. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    I agree that Matthew’s Gospel is directed primarily to a Jewish audience, hence his Gospel is riddled with references to the Law and the Prophets. And Luke’s Gospel is directed primarily to a Gentile audience who were not as familiar with the Hebrew Scriptures and thus Luke often words his...
  11. Pilgrimer

    Spiritual Abuse and Christmas Trees

    "I honestly believe it is better to know nothing than to know what ain't so." (Josh Billings) In Christ, Pilgrimer From what pagan religion did Christianity take December 25 ... and when? In Christ, Pilgrimer Please provide some proof and let's examine it. In Christ, Pilgrimer Deut 13:6 "If...
  12. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    But how do you determine the context of Matthew if not by harmonizing his words in one passage about a subject with his words in another passage about the same subject? And in a broader context with the rest of the Scriptures? I mean, if we read Matthew as a stand-alone Gospel, or some part of...
  13. Pilgrimer

    Revelation was written during Nero's reign before 70AD

    No need to worry and watch for the Lord's coming to judge and destroy Israel in fulfillment of the Law, no. That came to pass in the generation of Jesus' first coming, which is what Mark 13/Matthew 24/Luke 21 was about. Or do you think the total destruction of the Jewish nation and the end of...
  14. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    I don’t think they do. Let me make two points: First, you have to reconcile the last part of that discourse, Matthew 25:31-46 with the identical teaching in Matthew 16:24-28: “When the Son of Man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of...
  15. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    There is nothing I love more than talking over these things with fellow believers. I'm headed out and will have to save a more thorough response for this evening, but allow me to leave you with this thought. I agree absolutely that the New Covenant was instituted at the Cross. But consider ...
  16. Pilgrimer

    Revelation was written during Nero's reign before 70AD

    Interesting, but I'm afraid I don't agree with your view on the symbolism of the scapegoat. It was in fact the goat "for Jehovah" whose blood was sprinkled in the Holiest to make atonement for sin that foreshadowed the work of Christ in cleansing his disciples. The goat "for Azazel" (which...
  17. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    Oh, I am absolutely looking for Jesus to return! The spiritual blessings which we enjoy now are a "down payment" on the glory that we will one day enjoy in a new heaven and earth with glorified bodies that will be like Jesus' resurrected, incorruptible, immortal body. Even so, come quickly Lord...
  18. Pilgrimer

    Revelation was written during Nero's reign before 70AD

    The internal evidence of The Revelation is that it was written before 70 A.D. as it foretells the destruction of the Temple in 11:1 and the occupation of Jerusalem by Rome in 11:2. But I would ask you to reconsider the numbering of the emperors. The count began with the first emperor to rise up...
  19. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    I assume you mean the Mt. Olivet discourse of Matthew 24? But what exactly is the nature of the questions the disciples asked Jesus? I know the popular view is that they were asking Jesus about his 2nd Coming, but that is simply not possible. This conversation occurred on Tuesday of Passion...
  20. Pilgrimer

    The Man of Lawlessness

    Ah, but there are two parousias of Jesus spoken of in Scripture, and not all of them are speaking of his 2nd. Indeed, most of them are speaking of events that would occur in the generation of his 1st coming, which I believe had far deeper and broader ramifications than is popularly understood...