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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Jesus came FIRST to the Jew, then the Gentile. Why did the gospel then go the Gentiles? Because Israel rejected it. All part of God's purposes based on His foreknowledge. Romans 11:11...."through their fall salvation is come to the Gentiles". Peter received that revelation from the Lord...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Nobody can measure up in our own selves. But not all will perish. Why....because of God's grace in Christ, freely offered to all and given to whosoever will. That is the gospel.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The answer is both, as scripture testifies. But this world is rife with self-centred, man-centred gospels and religions. God's purpose involves us, but it isn't about us. Reminds me of an old song called "You're so Vain"....".you think this is song is about you, don't you, don't you?" Mankind...
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    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole World?

    Is Jesus the Saviour of the whole world? Yes, He is Saviour of both Jew and Gentile.........of those who are willing.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    You're talking and thinking like a man. It's not surprising that you think this is all about us.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    It is God's omniscient foreknowledge of everyone's hearts and foreknowing how each one would respond to Him, and to the gospel. He foreknew everyone before He created them. How I understand it is that those who He foreknew would reject Him and not repent, He created them anyway....to be...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Wow, so you believe Paul was under the influence of paganism? You don't accept the new testament scriptures? The body we receive is like that of the angels who are able to appear/disappear and when they appear it is in a body.. Jesus said we would be "like the angels". And it is like the...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I believe the idea of "incineration" as you call it, is a parable/allegory and hyperbole to cause us to feel the urgency of the situation. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth....a torment from seeing what one truly is in the light of the Lord (not a pretty sight) and of knowing one's...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Thankfully, we have His grace..........those who do know Him.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    God knows all the circumstances of our lives....how and why we were tempted, what circumstances the devil was exploiting and even what he conspired to do that would make us more apt to be tempted. In God's justness and mercy and compassion He provided the way to be forgiven and rescued from the...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The Lord is sovereign over all....He knows the end from the beginning. Based on His foreknowledge He has made some to be vessels of mercy and others to be vessels of wrath.......it is.based on their own choices. "Smoke" of their torment rising forever doesn't have to mean they will be in...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    The Lord is not wanting that any should perish, yet scripture is very clear that many will. Funny that you are alluding/citing that verse when you don't believe any will perish. But you still havent' answered my question about what it means to perish and be destroyed. The human spirit...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 1 Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    No, it says the SPIRIT (ruah) returns to God who gave it. The soul is spirit and body together. Salvation of the soul (eternal life) requires redemption of the body also.
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Those scrips are the point. But falling on deaf ears, I'm afraid. And v. 24 doesn't say "all" in any case...your translation has added that word. Salvation is by FAITH in Christ......justification is by FAITH in Christ, not without it. All of scripture warns of a coming...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    You want to "go with" the first verse of Job 21 and ignore all the other scriptures...? Yes, all die....the flesh is dead because of sin.....but only the redeemed are resurrected to life and receive immortal bodies....that is what salvation of the soul is all about...the unredeemed are...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I don’t know what translation you are using or why you consistently isolate verses and ignore context. Context here is about the gospel being open and available to “all”, ie both Jew and Gentile (the world). And these very scriptures also affirm very plainly the need to believe in Jesus to be...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    I agree that the picture of hell that we have been given in the west is a medieval construct…agree that it came through the RCC. I don’t believe that “hell” is some sort of giant medieval torture chamber where people are being tortured for eternity. What I do glean from scripture is that hell is...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Hell...gehenna....is simply death. Choose life or choose death...ie, eternal life or permanent death. Death will feed on the wicked forever. Not literally, but it is conveying the sense that once judged and consigned to death there will be no coming back from it.....it is the sentence of...
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    Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?

    Yes, I believe the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was a test and tutor.....because God wasn't going to stop at making man "good", but He wanted to make him "perfect". That Tree foreshadowed the Law in some ways. The fall of man came with hardships and consequences that we are to learn from...