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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You are correct. Do you know what "a lot" means? It doesn't mean "all". I disagree with A LOT or MOST of what a typical preterist believes as it relates to eschatology. Are you able to understand what I'm saying?
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Christ has already returned ?

    I don't know what you mean. Please explain.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You obviously have Amils like me in mind here, so let us reason together. You are misrepresenting my, and many other Amils, understanding of what is going to occur. You are acting as if we believe that God will take His time burning up the earth and that people will be running around on fire and...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Sure. Why not? Destroying (not annihilating....always need to clarify that, apparently) the earth is obviously something that God has done before. And sending fire down on earth is also something He has done before, but just not the entire earth. How else is He going to remove the wicked and...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Please learn how to communicate. Take a class on it or something. You strongly implied that the basis for giving less weight to Matthew 24:35-25:46 than Matthew 24:4-34 was because it was mostly parables. What do you think I'm supposed to take away from that? Why? Why not look at the entire...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I've been telling you over and over again why I don't buy what you're selling and you still have to ask me? I'm not saying those words don't have multiple definitions. What I have been telling you repeatedly is that I don't buy your understanding of Matthew 24:4-34 because you have decided to...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Tell me about it. Couldn't agree more. That's all you ever say no matter what I do. I'm not going to waste my time much longer talking to someone who just claims that I misrepresent all of his arguments while he either ignores or misrepresents most of mine. What are we doing? We just think too...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Agree with your last two words of the first line. Plus, I've explained my view of this on this forum many times before, so didn't think there was a need to do it again. And the flood was mass, global destruction and didn't result in annihilation, so...yeah. Whatever, though.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    That's not what I'm doing. Someone attributed a comment that I didn't make to me, so I was correcting that. I only said I thought you were the one who said it, but I wasn't sure. How does that equate to me "hankering" for conflict. I'm not.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Okay. But, my post must have spawned yours, at least, since no one was talking about 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 before I mentioned it. So, it came across that you thought when I said the earth would be destroyed that I was saying it would be annihilated and I wanted to clear that...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    You are the one who misunderstood what I said, so you are having difficulty understanding what is being said. I never said that you ever said that the sealed can be unsealed. I only said that you or possibly someone else asked the question about that. I can't recall who it was. It may have been...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Yes. Read my post #2 in this thread and let me know your thoughts on what I said there. Matthew 25:31-46 is very clear that both the saved and unsaved will appear before Jesus for judgment. Don't complicate simple things for no reason.
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Who told you I haven't read it carefully? I have. What does an invitation imply? Do you think the invitation God offers is disingenuous? I sure don't. That's not the God I know. So, what it portrays is God's offer of salvation to all people that every person must decide whether to accept or...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I didn't say you did. I wish I knew why you have so much trouble understanding what people are saying. Yes, I'm pretty sure you did and that's all I'm saying. Never said you did.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    That's what I referenced in my post. Why are you acting as if you are bringing something to my attention to look at when I was already using Matthew 22:1-13 to make my point? Can you address what I said in post #197 about Matthew 22:1-13?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    No, I'm saying I think you questioned whether that can be the case, not that you said it is the case. I'm pretty sure it was you who asked that question.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Please show me where Jesus said "many FEEL called, but few are his chosen" rather than saying "Many ARE called, but few are chosen"? Do you think the invitation that He described in Matthew 22:1-13 is a disingenuous invitation/offer to those who reject it? If so, why even invite them at all? Do...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    LOL. I'm not OSAS. This proves even further that we're not on the same page and not understanding each other. You have me confused with someone else. I never said that. I think @Gray_Joy may have said that. Of course they are, but the question is can they lose their faith and depart and fall...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    This was obviously directed to me since I brought up 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12, so I'll respond to this since you are misrepresenting my view and I like to clarify things when that happens. I agree with everything you said here. Destruction does not have to equate with...