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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    But, 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 describe mass, global destruction occurring when the day of the Lord arrives unexpectedly as a thief in the night. With that being the case, how could the day of the Lord refer to a long period of time or even a period of time involving, say, 3.5...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I don't buy any of that, but I appreciate your effort to explain to me how you see it. But, there's still something you haven't addressed about what I've been trying to tell you because of your seeming unwillingness to allow Matthew 24:35-25:46 to help understand the context of Matthew 24:4-34...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    That doesn't line up with what Paul and Peter taught. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I second this. We're all passionate about the Bible, which is a good thing, but we have to try to control that and not let things get personal. Easier said than done, of course. But, what you said here describes exactly how I feel about @Davidpt . Our frustration isn't an excuse to make things...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Yes, in verse 15 the rebellion of God's people in old covenant times is referenced. So? Hebrews 3:12-14 is clearly being addressed only to true believers because it refers to the "brethren", which is a reference to the same "holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling" referenced a bit...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Scripture says otherwise, as I showed. No it's not the Bible that is filled with contradiction and confusion. Where does scripture teach that it's not a book that continues to have more names written in it as times goes on and rather is a book that already had the names of everyone who will...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Because that is what scripture teaches. Hello??? Scripture shows people as not receiving eternal life unless they prove faithful until death (Revelation 2:10-11). What we have right now is the hope and promise of eternal life, but scripture repeatedly teaches that we must remain faithful in...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    That passage is not addressed to "Israel of Old", it's addressed to New Testament believers who were the "brethren" of the author (I believe the author was Paul). Why is the word "if" in verse 14 if it's not actually possible for one of the "holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling"...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Christ has already returned ?

    The day of the Lord did not occur in AD 70. Jesus has not yet come unexpectedly as a thief in the night to bring sudden destruction on all of those who are in spiritual darkness. It will involve the dissolving of the heavens and the elements as well as the burning up of the earth and the things...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm willing to go back to being like that again if you are. I don't recall exactly how the exchanges were back then, but I know we had a lot of the same disagreements then that we still have now. There was more strict moderation there than here, so maybe that's part of it. Here's the thing. I...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Okay. The reason I asked was because I see people misinterpreting that verse a lot and I wasn't sure what you were saying in relation to that verse.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Why do you say that? How do you interpret Ezekiel 33:11? Do you think everything that God desires always happens? It doesn't. Matthew 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Do you understand that 2 Peter 1:20 has nothing to do with people having their own private interpretations of prophecy in scripture, but rather has to do with the fact that Bible prophecy did not originate from the prophet's own mind but rather originates from God by way of the Holy Spirit? 2...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Date of the Lord delivering Israel.

    Right. You referenced Malachi 3:1 in your post. I showed you what Malachi 3:1 was prophesying, which was about John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus. Jesus Himself said so in Matthew 11:10, as I showed. Yes, of course He is. I'm just correcting your understanding of Malachi 3:1. Of course.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Are you sure you understand 1 Timothy 2:4 and 2 Peter 3:9 in their proper context? Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    That started with the foundation of the world and has continued since then, but you would probably say all of their names were written in the book of life already before the foundation of the world. That's not what scripture teaches. Also, if that was true, it would not be possible for someone's...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    LOL. HA HA HA. I never said we can just sin all we want. We're not on the same page here, so I have no interest in continuing this discussion.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Christ has already returned ?

    I didn't ever say that you said I was wrong. I mean, you're obviously disagreeing with me about some things, which can imply that, but you have never specifically said that I'm wrong. I was responding to you thinking that I believe you're a liar and so on and that's not what I believe about you...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Date of the Lord delivering Israel.

    Why do you keep posting falsehood over and over when it's already been refuted? Malachi 3:1 refers to John the Baptist preparing the way for Jesus. Prophecy: Malachi 3:1 “Behold, I send My messenger, And he will prepare the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, Will suddenly come to His...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Christ has already returned ?

    LOL! Why would I do that when it's not what I believe? I believe you are mistaken in your eschatological beliefs, but I haven't seen you lie about anything. You seem to be pretty honest about what you believe. You are obviously a very sensitive person who gets easily offended and maybe you can't...