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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Yes, it is. Once again, you have adopted another view that is in a very small minority. You have several such views. Do you think you have more spiritual discernment than a vast majority of other Christians? The only other ones I know of who would deny that the parable is about the future second...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    That is completely besides the point that I'm making. Your continual attempts to turn this into a OSAS vs. NOSAS debate shows that you don't even understand what we're debating here. My point has to do with when we will appear before Jesus to give an account of ourselves and who will be doing...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Your eschatological framework should include Matthew 24:35-25:46. And all of Mark 13 and Luke 21, also. My point had nothing to do with the timing of Christ's return, but rather with not knowing the author of the books. Despite not knowing for certain who the author of Hebrews is, you still...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    No, it originates from passages like these from a book that is accepted as holy scripture... Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. 7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Do you at least acknowledge that the the thousand years in Revelation 20 could be figurative? It would not be consistent to see a reference to "that day" as referring to a thousand or thousands of years rather than a literal 24 hour day while at the same time not even allowing that the thousand...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    How can the inhabited world not have a global scope? There are people living all over the world. What exactly do you think Jesus was talking about in Luke 21:25-36? Why do you think He said "heaven and earth will pass away" (Luke 21:33) in direct relation to what He was talking about, which were...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Psalm 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. What you're saying here is like saying that we have to accept the number given in Psalm 50:10, which means we have to accept that God only owns the cattle on exactly one thousand hills and does not own the...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    That is absolutely false. For one thing, any Greek word can potentially be used figuratively. There is no rule that says only certain words can be used to symbolize something. Also, the Hebrew word "eleph" means one thousand. Yet, it is used figuratively to refer to a large, unknown number in...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Please explain what you mean when you say verses 16-19 involve "ruling with a rod of iron". Explain how you think that will work exactly. Keeping in mind that ruling with a rod of iron relates to this... Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Goodness sakes. You are terribly mistaken. You apparently don't even know what faith is. For one thing, repentance and faith go hand in hand and that has always been the case. You can't put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ without repenting of your sins and acknowledging Him as Lord and as...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I don't see where you said that anywhere in your post. But, I'm not going to argue about this point here since that's not what this thread is about.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Okay, but that doesn't really address my point at all. Why would you think that the coming of the Son of Man Jesus mentioned after that is not the same coming of the Son of man He mentioned in Matthew 24:30? They are relevant to the point I'm making about the day of the Lord being a global...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Did you somehow miss that the post of mine you replied to here was not directed to you? I was talking to rwb. I actually agree with all of that, so I truly have no idea what I said that prompted this.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Of course not, but I find it very strange for any amillennialist to agree with a pre-trib dispensationalist on this particular topic. Most amillennialists agree that there is one future day of judgment (one judgment event) when all people will be rewarded or punished and that's what we see...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    First, you ask me a question and then, before giving me a chance to answer, you answer your own question. How about just letting me answer the question first before you answer it, eh? Every believer will receive the reward of eternal life in the kingdom of God prepared from the foundation of the...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I agree, but what I'm asking is how does this fit with your understanding of the judgment seat of Christ and the great white throne judgment? I see them as all referring to the same day of judgment. Do you see Matthew 25:31-46 as being a separate judgment from the judgment seat of Christ and...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    As I've said, there could have been more falsehood contained in the report than just the lie that the day of the Lord had already come. Why you won't allow for that possibility is beyond me. But, since you don't accept 2 Peter 3:10-12 as legitimate scripture that can help us understand what...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    We're talking about the most highly symbolic book in the Bible here. There's a lot of symbolism in the book, but somehow numbers can't be symbolic? The word "thousand" is used figuratively elsewhere in the Bible, so why not in Revelation 20?
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Nonsense. It's because that is what is taught in scripture! It's what is portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46. And I have made it clear that I don't see the judgment as being a time when Jesus deliberates over the destinies of all people. That is already determined ahead of time. The day of judgment is...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    So, how does Matthew 25:31-46 fit into your view then?