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    True Trinity.

    John 14:9 John 14:1 - “believe in God, believe also in me.” 14:7 - “If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. v. 8) Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. v.9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    If that is a statement in your Bible, you really should look for a new Bible. "The LORD (Adonai—here the Lord Jesus) is at Your (Jehovah's) right hand; He (Messiah) shall execute kings in the day of His wrath." Most of the many Bibles which have removed the 6000+ uses of God's name have...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    John 1:1: Sahidic Coptic transliteration: Hn teHoueite neFSoop nCi pSaJe auw pSaJe neFSoop nnaHrm pnoute auw neunoute pe pSaJe. Sahidic Coptic to English: In the beginning existed the Word, and the Word existed with the god (God), and a god was the Word. http://nwtandcoptic.blogspot.com/
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Trinitarians have been rendering John 1:1c into English as "and the Word was God" for hundreds of years. But it wasn't until 1933 that one of them came up with a grammatical reason for such a rendering (in spite of John's uses of parallel clauses which are translated differently by the same...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    1 Tim. 3:16 (“God was manifest in the flesh”) As this is translated in the KJV it makes Paul say that Jesus is God “manifest in the flesh.” Although the KJV translates 1 Tim. 3:16 with “God” as above, nearly all other translations today use a word which refers, not to God, but to Jesus: “he”...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: - John 17:21, 22, KJV.
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    Why the trinity?

    "God is one" is used frequently in the scriptures, but "God is three" never is. In fact, the word 'three' is never used for God.
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Is. 9:6 is usually translated in trinitarian-translated Bibles as: “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” - NASB. Even most...
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    Why the trinity?

    Gen. 1:26 - "Let US ...." There are a number of interpretations of this scripture given by Bible experts. The oft-used trinitarian explanation is only one (and probably the least likely). One other is that the only-begotten Son of God was present at this time. Another recognizes that the...
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    Why the trinity?

    @CL post #110 1 John 5:7 Noted Bible scholar, Dr. William Barclay, states the following about 1 John 5:7 as found in the KJV: "There is, of course, nothing wrong with it [if the trinity were really true as trinitarians like Barclay himself want!]; but modern scholarship has made it quite...
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    Why the trinity?

    Rev. 22:12-16 - Alpha and Omega Let's see how numerous trinitarian-translated Bibles have rendered Rev. 22:8-16 by their uses of quotation marks (beginning and ending). John is identified as the speaker in 22:8. The angel speaks in verse :9). The angel apparently continues speaking in v:10)...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    I have seen references to the “aleph tau” found in OT Hebrew manuscripts and left ‘untranslated’ in all Bibles. Some Trinitarians have selected a verse where this usage is found in connection with God or the Messiah and claim that this is falsely left untranslated and should be translated as...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Is. 48:16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD [Jehovah], and his spirit, hath sent me. - KJV. (see #315 above) Commenting on this scripture some trinitarians will say: "The speaker of...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Cooper (#296): "Good point. Only God can forgive sin." ....................... “Only God can forgive (aphiemi) sins,” say certain trinitarians, “and Jesus forgave sin, Mark 2:7. Therefore, Jesus must be God!” So, John 20:20-23 “proves” that the disciples also must be God, right?
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    The earth is still global?

    As any sailor should be able to tell you, when out on the ocean and a ship comes into view on the horizon, you see the masts first and the lower part slowly comes into view as you draw nearer. This could only happen on a round earth. Approaching a mountainous island over the horizon is even...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Echad/Yachid (part 2) Yachid We have already seen the absolute falsity of the “echad-means-’plural-oneness’” idea. But what about yachid? Did the Bible writers really use it whenever they meant “absolute mathematical oneness”? We have already seen that they really used echad for “absolute...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    JunChosen, post 246: Another thing to be observed in this passage which so plainly declared the doctrine of the Trinity in such a dynamic way, is the little word “one.” This term speaks of a compound unity, the Hebrew word is “echad” and declares “oneness” in plurality. We might also observe...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    ..................................... Plural “God” (Elohim) That the Hebrew plural is often used for a singular noun to denote “a ‘plural’ of majesty or excellence” is well-known by all Biblical Hebrew language experts and has been known from at least the time of Gesenius (1786-1842), who is...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    JunChosen wrote: "No one in the know who posted here in CB ever said that Jesus is NOT God! In fact, at least I, have argued that He is the 'The Great, I AM'" ............................................ There is no "Great I AM"! The ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew OT (the...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Reply to post 208: “I Will Raise It Up” - John 2:19 In English we use “rise” and “raise” with two distinctly different meanings. “Rise” is what a person or thing does by itself to itself: “I rise every morning at dawn;” “the sun will rise soon.” “Raise,” on the other hand, is what a...