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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Immanuel Should Jesus really be considered to be God because he was symbolically “named” Immanuel (Is. 7:14; Mt. 1:23) which means “God is with us”? No more so than Gabriel was calling himself God when he visited Mary and declared: “The Lord is with thee” - Luke 1:28. The New John Gill...
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    Did Jesus claim to be God?

    Let's not forget that 1 John 5:7 in the KJV (and those few still using the same out-dated text) is clearly spurious. Look it up. That's why most Bibles today omit it.
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    The Watchtower organization does not now, nor has it ever, claimed to be an inspired prophet of God. They have acknowledged from the beginning that they are imperfect human servants of God. Those prophets described in Deut. were claiming to be inspired by God. Therefore if what they said 'in...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    .................................. The OP was answered in #190 (p. 10) above. Or in my personal study found here: Examining the Trinity: Hebrews 1:8 - “Thy Throne, O God”
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    Do you mean you believe only what an English translation (KJV?) says? Or do you mean you believe only what the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts literally say? Here's a literal quote for you from the KJV: ""And Jonathan said unto David, O LORD God of Israel, when I have sounded my father about...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    Isaiah 9:6 (Part 2) And second, another way competent Bible scholars have interpreted the meaning of this name is with the understanding that it (as with many, if not most, of the other Israelites’ personal names) does not apply directly to the Messiah but is, instead, a statement praising the...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    Isaiah 9:6 (part 1) Many (but not all) trinitarians will tell you that Is. 9:6 proves that Jesus is God. Is. 9:6 says – “For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the government will rest on His shoulders; and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God...
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    Isaiah 48:16 Is. 48:16 - Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD [Jehovah], and his spirit, hath sent me. - KJV. Commenting on this scripture some trinitarians will say: “The speaker of Is...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    John 20:28 (part 4) I do not believe this expression by Thomas is an address to anyone. If Thomas had said, “You are my Lord and my God,” we might have reason for such a representational interpretation. Or if he had addressed Jesus with the intent of saying something further (e.g. “My Lord and...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    John 20:28 (part 3) Obviously, neither Jesus’ response, nor Thomas’ responses (before and after his statement at John 20:28), nor John’s summation of the event at 20:31 recognizes Thomas’ statement to mean that Jesus is the only true God! So it is clear from context that neither Jesus, nor...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    John 20:28 (part 2) What about the rest of the context? (1) Thomas did not bow down, worship, etc. upon learning that it was really Jesus and saying 'my lord and my god.' He could not have just discovered that he was in the presence of God and acted the way he did! (2) It’s also obvious that...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    John 20:28 (part 1) Notice that the disciples who had seen Jesus earlier did not tell Thomas that Jesus was God (v.25)! This is an incredible oversight if they had really believed they had seen God! Certainly, if they had discovered that Jesus was really God when they saw him resurrected, they...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    JBF wrote: "If Jesus is merely a god and not God then He is a false god: for there is only one true God (John 17:3). btw, in that verse, the word and is kai in the Greek and it can be translated 'even.'" John 17:1, 3 "Father, .... And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only...
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    What do you think this text says about the deity of Christ?

    Heb. 1:8 (the OP, Remember?) Here is a smattering of my study of this scripture: Literal word-for-word translation of Heb. 1:8: “Toward but the son the throne of you the god into the age of the age” - Notice that there is no verb here. Translators are free to insert the verb (probably “is”)...
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    The way modern man has chosen to classify certain things does not make them basic, important elements of the creation known to all men from the very beginning.  Time does not have to be classified as past, present and future.  It can be classified in many ways: Pre-flood and Post-flood;  B.C and...
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    Doubting Thomas

    What did Thomas Mean? - Part 2 What about the rest of the context? (1) As noted before, Thomas did not bow down, worship, etc. upon learning that it was really Jesus and saying 'my lord and my god.' He could not have just discovered that he was in the presence of God and acted the way he did...
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    Doubting Thomas

    What did Thomas mean at John 20:28? - Part 1 Thomas had said (verse :25) that unless something happened he would “not believe.” What was it that Thomas refused to believe? Was it that he refused to believe that Jesus was equally God with the Father? There is certainly no hint of this before or...
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    The Godhead/Trinity Has Already Been Scientifically Proven

    Ro. 1:20, NASB - "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." We need to see some important thing that everyone could see from the...
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    Witnessing to a Jehovah Witness

    "By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him." - 1 John 4:9, NASB.
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    Is my salvation based upon my knowledge of the Trinity?

    Eternally Grateful wrote: "elohime translated Gods, is the plural form of the word God, like in Genesis one where it says God created the heavens and the earth, Jehovah (yhwh) was not used their elohime was. jehova (the singular word used for God) could be used for any of the members of the...