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With an actual perceptible form to boot according to Jesus, and more like that of a man specifically, like his image bearers, according to Ezekiel. Some would say that the "fire" being referred to is not a literal fire, but some type of supernatural fire, one that cannot be extinguished with...

Did Abraham belong to a church when he found grace in the eyes of God on account of his faith in him? Your answer is in whether or not this was the case.

Hell if I know of the reason. The word "LORD" according to the Lexicon is "the proper name of the God of Israel". It makes no difference to me in the end though. Like you said, he was referred to by many names in the old testament. The problem with the mindset of many Christians is they treat...

Exactly, I pointed this all out before long ago, yet people continue to peddle this obvious falsehood. I'm betting part of the reason is due to their need to portray God as this hell fire, despotic being, without mercy, when he is described as nothing of the kind.

:) Yes, well aware you are calling yourself "Agnostics". And "awful" according to who exactly? On one hand, God destroys the enemies of man, and his plan for salvation, and people whine like little wimps about it, calling God a psychopath for doing what needed to be done. Now here we are today...

Yes, I clearly have read the Bible, and this is a response to both of you. And by Jesus Christ being the word made flesh who was God and with God in the beginning, if you claim to be Christian, if you are going to claim to have the holy spirit within you, then you are claiming that Jesus is...

There are three different hell's referred to throughout the Bible: Hades, tartarus and Gehenna. Tararus is the prison designed to bind angels, which I believe to be the bottomless pit in revelation. Hades is the present dwelling place of all departed spirits according to the Lexicon, which is...

What is the heart of man? I liken the heart of man to a computer without an antivirus system, and the antivirus system is "the law". Since there was no antivirus system, or "law" installed on the heart of Adam and Eve preventing the very knowledge of sin from being conceptualized, it was only a...

Simple, because the first verse isn't really referring to your body being unable to inherit the kingdom, but of flesh and blood corrupted by sin. If flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom, then Jesus Christ cannot claim to be your savior. His resurrection achieved absolutely nothing, and it...

Well giving a direct command doesn't guarantee it will be followed, we were created with free will after all (there goes the discussion of free will again). If God was really that concerned about their disobedience, knowing full well what was going to happen being omniscient, he might as well...

Hence, the old saying "keep your friends close,, and your enemies closer". I say, the people who you think are your "friends", or "fellow saints", are the ones you should be paying closer attention to. Yeah, I've been lurking in the shadows on and off, and finally decided to make a comeback...

The same people attacking you for having a different viewpoint are non existent on other forums defending their faith against non believers like I have, giving reasonable, apologetic arguments, as one would call them, for why I believe what I believe. I'm also willing to bet they wouldn't...

Fine, then just speak the original language and call him elohim. It makes no difference to me, nor does it really matter to your savior for that matter. It doesn't suddenly mean there was two different creations that occurred like the o.p claims. I prefer to speak the language I've been speaking...

Simple, its both.

Well, if you want to call the old and new testaments a dialectic, then you can't have the old testament without the new testament. Without Jesus, the old testament is nothing but a bunch of empty promises made by some old timer prophets, its a dead end, nothing there at all.

An attribute of God is omniscience, seeing and knowing all, and we know that Satan wants to be like him. If the satellite system is part of this effort to monitor everyone's activity at the same time 24/7, then yes, I would say its part of the beast system. Its being set up in such a way that it...

I'm still trying to figure out why this thread is in the apologetics section of the forum. I don't know where it belongs other than the 'unorthodox doctrine section', where all other twisted beliefs reside that are straight from the twilight zone. :confused:

Yeah, sure, still nothing there about going to heaven though, but whatever, believe what you believe. Its not important to me, because I know I'll see God in New Jerusalem on the new earth to come. :)

o_O But that says nothing about who goes to heaven, only who will face judgement when the day comes based on their faith in Jesus.

Exactly, I'm wondering why I even bothered coming back to this cesspit of a website. The kings english, plain facts really don't matter here, nothing but confusion and vitriol.