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I'd reckon that there wouldn't be any strings for God to pull to start with if we aren't free moral agents. This is not even counting the justification for the prophesied great white throne judgement. We are told to believe that a just God will decide who gets to live and die forever based on...

He could walk, talk, dance, eat, sleep, laugh, was a handy man as a carpenter, and he didn't need God tell him to do it. The Holy Spirit doesn't move an inch without Gods say so, Jesus did, unless we are claiming him to be an unthinking automaton. The context of doing what his Father told him to...

Jesus may be the light, doesn't mean that the light referred to in the creation account is Jesus. The light is described as a creation, and Jesus is not a created being.

I get what you mean since the Holy Spirit is referred to as a "he", especially in that chapter. However, a "person" is typically defined as something that operates on its own volition. The Holy Spirit is under the command and control of God, and doesn't act on its own accord.

What does the light of God have to do with it? You clearly stated that the light being referred to has nothing to do with his glory, because Gods light is uncreated light. You said it was cosmic light, when he could have easily just created the sun and moon and separated its light from shining...

To be clear, it is apparent that Rome isn't the only city referred to as sitting on seven hills. Many cities are claimed to be built on seven hills, and Jerusalem is in fact one of them. Link: Seven Hills of Jerusalem

In context, none of the scriptures say there won't be a sun and moon, only that the city will not need it, because God will be its source of light.

Well, the holy spirit is never described as a "person", which is the problem.

The problem comes from understanding the actual reason why Satan gathers the armies together. For one, it should be noted that destroying Israel was never his motive. He doesn't want to destroy Israel, he wants to replace God himself as the God of Israel, to be like the most high. Secondly, its...

The cosmic light bit is the only thing I don't agree with. I don't see why it has to be cosmic light. When it says "God created the heavens and earth", I take the word "heavens" to include the sun, moon, and stars, like the word "heaven" usually does throughout the Bible. It was already all...

Well stated, forgot all about Josephs dream, good reference.

Yes, agree'd, you would think this would be obvious to people, and I don't know where this need to make the woman of Rev 12 Mary really comes from. Well if you read down further in my post you will the correlation between the 'woman' fleeing into the wilderness with Jesus saying that people...

The discussion will continue because its very difficult for our little pea brains to truly understand the concept of the Godhead. For me, I understand that the holy spirit is not really a "person", but the power emanating from God. Its not really a separate entity from God like Jesus is...

There are plenty of people out there that believe the “woman” of Revelation is referring to Mary, starting in chapter 12. If you are going to claim that Revelation 12 is somehow referring to Mary being with Jesus, then there has to be some degree of continuity leading up to Revelation, and I...

Yes, it does say that, on no uncertain terms. Some may call this a contradiction, but as I have currently reasoned through it, the comparison between the two basically ends with them ascending into heaven when considering the entire message of the gospel. The difference is in what them ascending...

:rolleyes:......Denying eye witness testimony, twisting their words into metaphors is bad exegesis at its finest, and wouldn't even hold up in a court of law at that.

:rolleyes:......At what point in this discussion did I ever state I was better or any less sinful than anyone? All I did was quote what God specifically calls an abomination, in line with the subject of this thread. Putting words in peoples mouth has become an art form for you.

Witness: “I walked around the exterior of building four. I think there’s graphite on the ground,” DNB: “You didn’t see graphite,” Witness: “I did.” DNB: “You DIDN’T! Because it’s NOT THERE!” :rolleyes:............

:rolleyes:.............If believing what the Bible plainly describes as eye witness testimony makes me "stubborn", then so be it. That's what makes a true believer.

Well, what is the subject of the thread? You'll have your answer right there. I'm well aware that many more abominations are listed.