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  1. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    I didn't say "shatter you" - I said "shatter that" ie., "shatter that idea". It's clear who's manipulating things. There is no "command to restore Jerusalem" in Nehemiah. It was merely authorization of timber for gates and a wall. The command to "restore Jerusalem" is in Ezra 7 where...
  2. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    I get it. You've believed for so long the Ezra decrees are limited to Temple restoration, only to have someone come along and shatter that by magnifying for you the Ezra 7 decree which establishes systems of Education, Judiciary, Constabulary and Penal Corrections - all of which have nothing to...
  3. Phoneman777

    70 AD revisited

    Thanks for this post. It's clear that "the people of the prince that shall come" can either refer to "Prince Jesus" or "prince Titus" of the Roman army. We can say that the Roman soldiers of prince Titus destroyed Jerusalem, or we can say that the Jews of the Prince of Peace destroyed...
  4. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    It is an inarguable fact that the purpose of the temple - God's "three dimensional Plan of Salvation" - was established for the singular work of atonement for sin. Got it? Atonement for sin by sacrifices and priestly intercession. What does "teaching" God's law (Ezra 7:25) including secular...
  5. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    These prophecies aren't independent - they are built one upon the other because God, like any good teacher, utilizes the principle of "Repetition and Enlargement" ie., Dan 2 ends with the ten toes and Christ's coming, but Dan 7 adds among other things the Little Horn and judgment before Christ...
  6. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Absolutely - the time frame fits perfectly. 445/444 introduces confusion.
  7. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    In Ezra? Only that which is found in Ezra 7:12-26 KJV. Have you read Ezra 7:12-26?
  8. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Apparently, neither do you, friend. The prophecy of Daniel 9 was given to explain Daniel's confusion about the 2,300 days "vision" (Hebrew: "mareh") of Daniel 8 - the only portion of that prophecy that smacked him upside the head like a cannonball of confusion. Daniel passed out when he heard...
  9. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Question: Is there evidence that God commanded anyone to "restore and build Jerusalem"? Answer: No. Evidence points to 3 decrees for rebuilding and completion of the temple (Ezra 6:14), then a fourth decree in Ezra 7 which fulfills Daniel 9:25, then a decree in Nehemiah by Artaxerxes to...
  10. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Agreed, there were four decrees: 1-3: Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes each decreed the temple should be built and finished (Ezra 6:14). 4: Artaxerxes' comprehensive, prophecy fulfilling decree of Ezra 7
  11. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    As soon as you admit the 457 decree fulfills Daniel 9:25, we can discuss other things, like how the suggestion that Luke DID NOT use the Syro-Macedonian calendar would be equivalent to future generations 2000 years from now arguing that the United States didn't use the Gregorian calendar.
  12. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Well, well, I owe you an apology! I just spent the last few days revisiting Ezra and Nehemiah and seem to have misremembered a couple things. However, none of this changes the point upon which you're wrong and I'm right -- that the decree of Artaxerxes in 457 B.C. is the only decree...
  13. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Did you not read where Jesus was baptized "in the 15th year of Tiberius, when Herod and Pilate were reigning? According to the Syro-Macedonian calendar which is almost certainly what Luke was using, there was only ONE SINGLE YEAR these three reigned simultaneously: 27 A.D. I'm happy to send...
  14. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    My face is sore from the facepalming, friend. 1. Artaxerxes makes 457 B.C. decree fulfilling all Gabriel's criteria after the decrees of Cyrus and Darius fail to do so. 2. The 457 B.C. decree was suspended for a time until the accusations against Israel were resolved. 3. In 445/444, the 457...
  15. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    And spare me the "Messiah/commander" bulldookey - everyone knows "Messiah" here refers to "anointed" which is EXACTLY what happened when Jesus was baptized and "anointed". It's startling how gullible one has to be to think a "triumphant entry" as "commander" today which will turn into "crucify...
  16. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Are you breaking up Artaxerxes' SINGULAR decree into two separate decrees? Who are the authors of these supposed "4" decrees? Can you name them? See, if you're going to make wild accusations about what others "lack", could please provide the supposed "lack"? I don't claim to be a Bible...
  17. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Did you miss the part in Ezra 6:14 KJV where it says they completed everything according to the commandment of Cyrus, Darius, AND ARTAXERXES? Not every event of chapter 6 precedes chapter 7. Anyone who understand Hebrew Chiastic Structure knows the Hebrews are impatient to get to the "good...
  18. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    Gabriel said "restore and build Jerusalem" - which means the decree in question must include details concerning the reestablishment of the entire city - not just talk about a temple. Does Cyrus' decree provide for this? Does Darius' decree provide for the this? Does Artaxerxes' decree FAIL to...
  19. Phoneman777

    The 70 Weeks Prophecy - The Ezra 6:14 Challenge

    On the contrary...according to Biblical scholars, 457 B.C. is established by extra-Biblical archaeology, which is why that date was inserted in the margins of older Bibles before the change-agents got busy. Also, you misread my post where I denied 445-444 B.C. as the legit date. As for...