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Yes, this date setting got old for me a long time ago. I believe in the pre-wrath rapture because thats how its plainly described both by Jesus and John in Revelation, but the date setting just makes any notions of such a thing into an absolute joke, including the faith itself. I can't stand the...

Let me ask you this. Do you believe you will be here during the following? Would a God you believe loves you just leave you here to suffer this fate??? This is why the Resurrection is described as a meeting in the sky, because you will not want to be here on earth when God pours out his wrath...

Never said anything of the kind. Revelation makes it very clear that his re-entry will not be a quiet one. Revelation gives a more detailed account of everything prophesied to occur in the rest of the Bible. His entire second coming is described as follows: 1. Saints taken out of the way 2...

"Rapture of the church around mid-march 2018 ?" :rolleyes:................Oh for Christs sake, not this again.

You seem to believe "our fathers house" is or will be a different place from the "kingdom of God" on earth. Where is that indicated?? It plainly states the 'Father' will be on the new earth with us, on his throne. The 1,000 year reign is on earth, not in heaven. After the 1,000 year reign...

But it will end up being on earth because he will bring it to us not vice versa, which is the entire point.

Well, since spirit isn't something that can be perceived even with the most powerful microscope, then it already being in another dimension wouldn't be a stretch. What makes you think your spirit isn't in another dimension right now?? People talk about being "caught up" in the spirit, but that...

There is a problem with the verses you believe say we are going to some other place, particularly the first one. What Jesus Christ says here lines up with the narrative given in Revelation. Gods kingdom is a place with many mansions, a kingdom he will bring to us, not the other way around. His...

Well that's obvious, it makes me wonder why people waste their precious time having lengthy discussion's with him about anything, much less the catholic church. I just say my piece and move on in life.

I don't know about going to heaven since its never explicitly stated that any of us are going anywhere except the promised new earth. Its not that the "glorified" bodies we are to receive will in of itself magically make us sinless. The "glorified" bodies really ain't that much of a mystery...

HA!!! Sure as hell ain't my daddy either.

Is there an actual point being made here?

:rolleyes:....is this a serious question?

:) Of course we know why he puts up with us. Its like I said before, he knew what he was getting himself into before he created us. There is a tipping point though. Eventually, the world will be water boarded with the wine of his wrath, without prejudice. No worries for us, since we will have...

No, Jesus didn't forbid calling men "father", he forbid calling men father in the spiritual sense as that is a title given only to God. He was not referring to your earthly father. In the spiritual sense, there is only one father, and that is God. If Paul was calling himself their spiritual...

Its an "assumption" that Adam didn't die on the sixth day? What in the world does that even mean? Are you claiming he died soon after he ate from the tree? He lived to the age of 930 years, so I have no idea what you are talking about. And as for Jesus, there are common misconceptions about...

Well, based on what Jesus Christ said, yes. You go on about whether or not Paul sinned because he called himself their "father". Did Paul's encounter with Jesus Christ suddenly make him a perfect, sinless being? Paul certainly didn't think so looking at the verse below. Would him referring to...

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are referred to as "father" because they technically were in the physical sense as Israel is a direct descendant from them. As for Paul, can you find anyone in scripture actually referring to Paul as "father"? As far as I see, they just called him Paul.

Well, I think it can be reasonably concluded that death didn't enter the world until the eight day, or certainly some time after the seventh day, no one can say for sure how long it took Satan to rear his ugly head. The sixth day shouldn't even be considered a possibility since it is the day God...

"People have and carry to protect their family and selfs from life threatening trespassers." I would take this statement as protecting the well being of your life and others you personally care for from thugs on the street, you know, those looking to "trespass", which is what thugs do. But...