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  1. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    First of all I've said this plenty of times that the Apostle John at 1John 4:9 called the person who became Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God before he became human. So the person who came to the world of mankind as a human was the Only Begotten Son of God while in heaven with his...
  2. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I'm not going to deny that it was the Only Begotten Son of God who came to the world of mankind as a perfect sinless human.
  3. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    Renniks said: The Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that John 8:58 should be translated as ” . . . before Abraham was, I have been,” not “I am.” But what is it about saying, “I have been” that would motivate the Jews to want to kill Jesus?[/Quote\] The thing is you and others try to take the...
  4. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I didn't think you would agree with them you will speak out against anyone or anything that goes against what you believe is the truth, which is your right. Just remember I don't agree with you either which is my right.
  5. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I answered that question.
  6. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I'm simply saying man is in need of a sin covering, or atonement, due to inherited sin (King 8:46; Psalm 51:5; Ecclesiastes 7:20; Roman 3:23), responsibility for which rests, not with God, but with man himself. (Deuteronomy 32:4,5) Adam, who lost everlasting life in human perfection, bequeathed...
  7. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    Philippians 2:5-9 tells us that the Only Begotten Son of God existed in heaven in God form but then took a slaves form and became human.
  8. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    Adam lost eternal life for himself and a perfect sinless society of humans living on a paradise Earth. that was in his loins when he sinned. God sent a perfect sinless Human who stayed that way until his death, buying eternal life for the world of mankind buying back that perfect human society...
  9. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    That law was given to the Jews and basically that divine law is eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand. Basically if a Jew murdered a Jew he or she forfeited their lives. Life for life. It wasn't a God-Man that was lost it was a perfect sinless Human that was lost. Therefore God sent a...
  10. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    You need to find a way to understand I'm going to disagree with you if I honestly think you're wrong. I don't think you're infallible in how you reason on the scriptures. You certainly have a right to believe or reason on the scriptures how you believe is true. But so what, you're not infallible...
  11. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    What I think you are not understanding is the justice of The True God. It wasn't a God-Man that was lost when Adam sinned. It was a perfect sinless human that was lost. To buy back what was lost God only needs to send the exact value of what was lost. God sent a perfect sinless human. He grew up...
  12. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    Manuscripts supporting Monogenes Theos: Papyrus 66 [Papyrus Bodmer II] A.D. c. 200 (Martin), A.D. 100-150 (Hunger) Papyrus 75 (A.D. 175-225) Codex א - Sinaiticus (c. 330–360) Codex B - Vaticanus (c. 325–350) Codex C - Eprhraemi Rescriptus (5th C.) Apostolic Constitutions (A.D. 375 -380) Codex...
  13. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    As I said God using his Holy Spirit transferred the spiritual being who is his Only Begotten Son into gthe womb of Mary. The scriptures tell us that the Son was transferred from the spirit realm and “came to be in the likeness of men.” (Philippians 2:5-8) ...
  14. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    If this is what you believe then you're admitting that Adam lost eternal life when he ate the forbidden fruit. You can quibble about words but that is what you are saying. God expelled Adam from the garden of Eden so that he couldn't eat of the tree of life and live forever. You see when it...
  15. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    The trees are not magical, not even the tree of life.The scripture does not indicate that it had inherent life-giving qualities in its fruit; instead, it represented God’s guarantee of everlasting life to those he would allow to eat of its fruit.—Ge 2:9; 3:22. Being allowed to live for eternity...
  16. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I'm not saying the only Begotten Son of God was or is a man in heaven, although I think it's interesting that someone who believes that Jesus was a God-Man is asking me if I believe Jesus to be a man in heaven. monogenes is defined by lexicographers as “single of its kind, only,” or “the only...
  17. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    You keep believing your way I'll believe another
  18. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    Let's stay on the topic we're texting about, Adam had freewill, the ability to make choices. Adam chose to disobey God and he lost eternal life for himself and his offspring.
  19. BARNEY BRIGHT

    For free will believers out there

    I believe you honestly think you know what it implies, when the scriptures say Jesus had a prehuman existence, but I think you're wrong about what you believe that means. The Only-Begotten Son of God was said to be the Only-Begotten Son of God before he became human and was named Jesus.