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  1. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Do we need to speculate - when the white paint becomes the red paint you want to buy? when the white milk becomes the chocolate milk you want to drink? when the unlit bulb becomes the current-conducting bulb we want for light? "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and...
  2. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    Everyone puts a comma in where none exists, friend! Say it with me: "There was no punctuation, no spacing, no capitalization, no paragraph divisions, no verse divisions, etc., in the original Hebrew and Greek". Now, repeat that 150 times and then get back to me, OK?
  3. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    Hello? The "actual Greek" doesn't contain punctuation...do I have to say that in Greek before it sinks in? "Verily, I say unto you today thou shalt be with Me in paradise". Now, you wanna talk Greek? In the Septuagint, the word "today" (Sameren) precedes the verb that it modifies 51 times, but...
  4. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    So what? I also base my doctrine on murderers and adulterers (Paul and David), liars (Peter), haters who desire to murder (James and John), and other such authors of Scripture because they repented of their sins and were filled with the Holy Ghost. Solomon doesn't contradict a single word by...
  5. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    His choice. That which comes forth from God and joins with an inanimate Body to animate it. It returns to God at death and the Body returns to the dust. Nope, the dead cease to be...until the resurrection. The wicked dead, like all dead, cease to exist until the resurrection.
  6. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    I didn't read the translations because the commas are as uninspired in them as they are in my KJV. See, you can't face the truth that if you remove the comma, the verse can EASILY be read in the way I'm showing you and as it should be, that's why you have to rely on uninspired commas.
  7. Phoneman777

    What does the bible say happens when you die

    Wait...you claim to preach truth while basing your theology on uninspired punctuation, but somehow my theology which is based solely on God's inspired Word is wrong?
  8. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    And that is why you know nothing about what happens when we die, nor the reward of the wicked. Why do you keep arguing that a soul is not what the Bible says it is: the union of the Body and the Breath of Life? "He that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet will he live". God preserves...
  9. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    God made 'em up...I just pass 'em along. Sigh....the spirit of any creature - saint, sinner, dog, cat, etc., - returns to God at death. The Body returns to the Earth and that creature aka soul aka being ceases to be. I'm going to exposit this in red and I defy any man to show me where one...
  10. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    The BIBLE says at death, the Breath of Life - whether of a saint, sinner, or beast - returns to God just as It was when It left, and the Body - whether of a saint, sinner, or beast - returns to the ground as it was... Now, if the Soul exists only as a consequence of the union of the Body and...
  11. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Never fails to amaze me how people use uninterpreted parables and prophetic symbolism to "prove" their unBiblical ideas, but ignore literal, plain passages which reveal them as such. Yes, Solomon says "the dead know not anything", but somehow the "souls under the altar" (which means "martyrs...
  12. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Your blind theology doesn't allow you to see this is an assignment of TWO penalties for sin: death and eternal life in flames of torment. It's the asinine equivalent of saying a convict who's been sentenced both life in prison at hard labor and death by electric chair will first ride the...
  13. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    Well, that's what would have to happen to Him if the penalty of sin is eternal torment...because when the penalty of sin is eternal torment, nothin less than eternal torment will pay it in full.
  14. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    It'll be full of people who did believe hell is a place where the wicked will be punished but chose, to be wicked anyway. "They say there's a heaven for those who will wait, "Some say it's better but I say it ain't, "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, "The sinners are...
  15. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    If the disciples didn't diverge off the path of what they were told about what the coming of Messiah would be like, they'd have been right there with the crowd yelling, "Crucify Him!"
  16. Phoneman777

    Was Jesus Eternally Tormented?

    I been telling the Immortal Soul crowd that for years. I'm right there with you on this. Boom! there it is...the fatal Immortal Soul crowd mistake. Please continue reading: Man doesn't "HAVE" a soul...man IS a soul, as is plainly taught in Genesis 2:7 KJV. WELL,THEN, PHONEMAN777, WHAT ABOUT...
  17. Phoneman777

    Evolution or Creation? Vote now!

    "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?" - Job 38:31 KJV
  18. Phoneman777

    Evolution or Creation? Vote now!

    Creation is the movie which none of us have seen, including Adam and Eve, who were asleep. All we have are the movie reviews in both Scripture and nature. The sequel called, "And I Saw A New Heaven And A New Earth", is coming out soon and all the living and resurrected saints will have a front...
  19. Phoneman777

    Evolution or Creation? Vote now!

    Wasn't hard. I asked him things like, "hey, if atheistic science is so superior to Scripture, how come Scripture called Pleiades a "bound cluster" and declared Orion is shooting apart at breakneck speed thousands of years before the science of astronomy arose and confirmed these facts to be so...
  20. Phoneman777

    Evolution or Creation? Vote now!

    I don't care what the "world" says. The "world" says everything in the universe, every planet, constellation, galaxy, gas cloud, etc., all spread out from an explosion of a "singularity" of varying sizes between an egg and an atom, depending on which PhD nutcase you ask. Bulldookey, they're...