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My friend, are we going for context or pretext? Because making "living" and "dead" refer to "spiritual life and death" is not within the context. Verse 3 and 4 firmly establishes the context that "dead" is referring to "six feet under", as verse 3 says "go to the dead" and verse 4 speaks of...

What does that prove other than we've "come out from among them", and are "separate", and "touch not the unclean thing" no more, and have been "received unto Myself"? Certainly not consciousness in death, in which Scripture says "the dead know not anything". You're co-mingling a prophecy...

Are you confused about what Paul said about "moment, twinkling of an eye"? He didn't say "winking", he said "twinkling", which is even FASTER than a wink! Look, when we die, we have ZERO concept of the passing of time. Armies can march over your grave and fight wars on top of it and you will...

Paul says he ain't putting on his immortal body until the "last trump": 1 Corinthians 15:52-53 KJV [52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. [53] For this corruptible must...

No matter how you slice a cake, it doesn't turn into a fruit salad. Demanding that "today" is modifying "shalt be" causes grave disharmony of the Scriptures which say the dead know nothing, feel nothing, see nothing, hear nothing, plan nothing, do nothing, praise nothing, remember nothing, and...

One person had stones to answer the wages of sin is indeed death, and once dead he ends up in eternal torment - but Jesus' death didn't land Him in eternal torment? That makes Jesus die a "different" death than the sinners dies, so how in the world could that be equal to divine justice? It's...

Amen. I've shown people Revelation 2:7 KJV and Revelation 22:1-2 KJV prove that Paradise can be no where but UP because these verses say the Tree of Life is in the midst of Paradise and grows on both sides of the River of Life which flows from the Throne of God. How anyone can read these...

If the wages of sin is death, and death = eternal torment, what would Jesus have to endure in order to deliver us from that penalty of eternal torment? If the wages of sin = eternal torment and Jesus suffered less than eternal torment, are the wages of sin paid?

If that were true, that begs the question: why didn't he tell us to comfort the bereaved saints with such words? "Don't cry - Aunt Judy and Uncle Benny might have just been planted 6 feet down, but they're are partying with Jesus in heaven". He said comfort them with words that they will rise...

If we quote Jesus without the comma, it reads: "I say unto thee today shalt thou be with Me in paradise". The entire Christian world demands "today" must modify "shalt be" when it can just as easily be modifying "say". The placement of the comma determines which is being modified: "I say unto...

hey, bb, doesn't Paul he's "willing rather"? Sure sounds like he's expressing a preference.

He means the saints rise with an immortal body, while the wicked rise with the same old arthritic, bent over, cancer-ridden, clogged artery, disease ravaged mortal body...I think.

Since there's no pre-trib rapture: The battle of Armageddon begins with the 1st of the 7 Last Plagues when the inhabitants of spiritual Babylon realize the very ones they've persecuted and condemned for rejecting the Papal Beast and its "Mark of authority" are divinely protected, while they are...

Both dead saints and dead wicked resurrect to the Second Life - the saints with an immortal flesh and bone body, and the wicked with the same old mortal body which is why it's subject to the Second Death. Both resurrections are separated by the 1,000 years.

For interest's sake, the Protestant Reformation taught that a beast is a kingdom and a woman is a church: a pure woman represents God's faithful church while the whore represents an apostate church. Therefore, a "woman riding the beast" is an apostate church exercising control over the secular...

Doesn't Revelation say the 1,000 years are bookended by the two resurrections? After it speaks of the righteous being raised, it says the rest of the dead (the wicked) lived not again until the thousand years were finished, followed by the parenthetical statement: "this is the first...

"Second Coming" or "second chance"? If the "secret rapture" is true, the question is how come the rest of us don't get a second chance? Of course, it ain't true, that's why I'm listening to Paul and count on the Second Coming.

Hi, Scott, I changed the title from "disprove" to "support" which is actually along the lines of my original thinking but got a bit distracted earlier. Perhaps I should point out that this is the popular yet inaccurate quote: "To be absent from the body IS TO BE present with the Lord". Paul...

Now that I think about it, I wish I would have titled it "Why...doesn't support Immortal Soul Doctrine". I'll change it.

Verse by verse exposition in red of 2 Corinthians 5:1-8 KJV disproving the popular sentiment: "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord": 2 Corinthians 5:1-8 KJV [1] For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not...