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  1. J

    When were angels created?

    Just bad interpretation. I am done with this line of thinking.
  2. J

    When were angels created?

    Jesus was not created. Jesus is God (John 1:1).
  3. J

    When were angels created?

    I thought I answered that. Before the creation of the heavens and earth is before Day 1.
  4. J

    When were angels created?

    I wouldn't ask that question. All I would do is to posit my own personal opinion that it was before the creation of the heavens and earth. That, to me, makes sense even if there is no such thing as time in the spiritual realm.
  5. J

    Do animals have souls?

    Verses 24 & 25 speak to the here and now, not some time far into the future. Those verses are, in fact, a statement of regeneration when those who hear and believe are reborn. It is verses 28 & 29 that speak to a time when all will come from the grave in the last days when Jesus returns. In...
  6. J

    How likely was the first day a 24-hour period?

    In my opinion, it is not likely that any of the days of creation are 24-hour days. Even the measure time in hours depends upon the existence of the sun with the earth in rotation about its axis. As does, by the way, the usual meaning of evening and morning.
  7. J

    When were angels created?

    The question of "when" implies the existence of time. I believe that time is a physical entity which came into existence only with the creation of the physical universe. Personally, I don't believe that time exists in the spiritual realm. That is hard for us to even imagine, but I believe...
  8. J

    The image of God is Spiritual. The image of man is Natural.

    Any who believe that Jesus is even now a human being in the flesh sitting on a physical throne, comes very close to the graven image that God warned against. Jesus, in His prayer to the Father (John 17) said, "And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you...
  9. J

    Do animals have souls?

    John 5:24,25 is a description of regeneration. Jesus says "The hour is coming, and NOW IS...". He is not speaking about the end of the age when Christ returns. In fact that, the end of the age, is what He is talking about in the very next verses, John 5:28-29 when he speaks about "for the hour...
  10. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    You have no other understanding than your own human understanding.
  11. J

    Do animals have souls?

    Ecc 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. There is no distinction between the saved or the unsaved in that verse. The difference is what does God do with the spirit when it returns to Him. The breath of life in Genesis 2:7...
  12. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    It's not working.
  13. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I don't struggle with it at all. You are, it seems, totally ignorant of all of it. You weren't given any revelation. You may think you were, but you weren't. There is nothing in the NT that says you were.
  14. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Pure Bovine Scat. Faith and belief are the very same words in the Greek. There is no difference. Both are translations of the Greek word πίστις [pistis].
  15. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    By reading the bible or being taught by someone who had read the Bible. Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the...
  16. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    Faith is belief in God.
  17. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    I did not deny saying that. If I said it, I was wrong. I believe it completely. Faith is not a gift from God. The give is salvation.
  18. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    What was absolutely false was your statement, "Only God can gift us the faith to believe in Jesus, he does it when we become Born of God....Born Again...." Faith is not a gift. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word about Christ. For some, for example one raised in a Christian family...
  19. J

    OSAS being False Doctrine!

    No, God does not form the body. God created the natural function of procreation. It is through procreation that the body of man and beast is formed. That is different from the spirit of man. I would note that even the body of Jesus Christ was formed through the physical function of procreation.
  20. J

    Do animals have souls?

    Even with everything we know today about the human being, we are not able to completely, or even adequately, define or understand the consciousness of man.