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  1. Phoneman777

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    True...but we're told to "test the spirits" and if we possess an inadequate level of knowledge for testing - as Darwin did - we're almost certain to end up with a wrong conclusion, too.
  2. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    I'm not a Calvinist, you can be sure of that. Look, there's no discovery of truth unless we weigh the evidence for or against it, right or wrong? Therefore: are those Jesus commands to depart only those Jesus never knew (thus, Matt. 7:23 supports OSAS) -- OR -- are those Jesus never knew...
  3. Phoneman777

    The Divine Exchange

    I prefer "conditional", not "limited". Because salvation is able to cover "all manner of sin and blasphemy" without limitation. It, however, is only available on one condition: repentance...to which the goodness of God leads, right or wrong? And, since it's possible to fall away and render...
  4. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    Look, I don't mind having my feet held to the fire, which is why I don't hesitate to hold yours to it. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, because you keep missing the question, of which the answer establishes whether Matthew 7:23 KJV can continue to be used to support your...
  5. Phoneman777

    The Divine Exchange

    These are not mutually exclusive, friend, but intrinsic to Bible Christianity. Actually, I'm well acquainted with your position. I don't need your crash course on this particular brand of heresy, OK? I'm already full acquainted with it. You're twisting Paul's words to mean since we're...
  6. Phoneman777

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Darwin's understanding led him to faithfully preach evolution while being simultaneously ignorant of two things: the limitless complexity of the science of genetics, and that the first truths of it had already been discovered, researched, and published by Gregor Mendel but lay yet unknown to the...
  7. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    Well said! There will be "many" standing in judgment that will hear Him say to them "depart, I never knew you" or "I never had a spiritual union with you". The question I have is this: Does the verse eliminate the possibility that there will be others with which He did have a spiritual union...
  8. Phoneman777

    The Divine Exchange

    Whoever said this said it best: "Grace is God giving us what we don't deserve and Mercy is God not giving us what we indeed deserve." My head elder's wife taught me years ago that Grace is both Pardon for sin and Power to obey, perhaps the most profound thing I've ever learned. The OSAS crowd...
  9. Phoneman777

    The Divine Exchange

    I think my analysis of what he teaches is spot on: that grace is a License to Sin...because if grace allows the Christian to escape punishment for doing the exact same thing for which the sinner will be punished, then that's the textbook definition of what a "license" is, right or wrong?
  10. Phoneman777

    The Divine Exchange

    I disagree. What you preach is not "grace" but "disgrace" - by making the grace of God a license to sin. What is a "license" but something that allows the Licensed to go free for doing the exact same thing for which the Unlicensed is punished? There's nothing anyone can say against this...
  11. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    When I first discovered the truth, I am ashamed to admit I had zero patience for my former Baptist friends, Catholics, pretty much everyone who is roped into popular but erroneous doctrine. Happy to say that is no longer the case. I'll repeat the question: Q. While it is true there will be...
  12. Phoneman777

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    What remains when the Breath of Life returns to God and the body returns to the Earth: which is nothing. Depends if you're talking about the wicked or righteous. Immortal flesh and bone body and God's Breath of Life. Isn't it amazing Jesus, though fully God, will forever wear a flesh and bone...
  13. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    Please force yourself to divorce yourself from what the lying pulpit prophets have told you, and understand that good works don't gain for us heaven and bad works don't consign us to hell - works are the outward evidence of our own chosen spiritual condition. The "Christian" who claims he's...
  14. Phoneman777

    Born Again = Not a Sinner

    True...however I'm talking about the OSAS believer who trusts in his License to Sin, not in the Divine Amnesia with which God forgives the truly repentant sinner. The latter can expect mercy, but the former by his actions of habitual, deliberate, willful sin proves he is an impenitent sinner who...
  15. Phoneman777

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    The doctrine of "Innate Immortality of the Soul" essentially says the Soul is an inner, eternally existing "see-through person" aka "ghost" that inhabits the body "shell" and is released at death to travel to any one of several destinations, depending on who you ask. This is straight out of...
  16. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    Matthew 24:12-13 KJV is irrefutable proof - along with texts in Hebrews, Peter's epistles, Jesus' story of the Unmerciful Servant, etc. - that the saved can and will wind up lost who withdraw their surrendered will from God. Turn from trusting in a worthless OSAS License to Sin and trust alone...
  17. Phoneman777

    Born Again = Not a Sinner

    So...do you consider making a choice to be "effort" or what you mean more specifically - "works"? Or, is making a choice what any thinking, honest man will admit it is: mere thought? Sure, choices can be difficult, but it's not the act of choosing that's hard - it's the worrying about what the...
  18. Phoneman777

    Born Again = Not a Sinner

    What do you mean by "effort"? I hope you don't rank "choice" among what you deem to be "effort" because "choice" is not works - it's thought. The moment we choose to accept Jesus, we enter a saving relationship with Him. If we then choose to reject Him from reigning upon the throne of our heart...
  19. Phoneman777

    What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

    Very welcome, friend. I think it's pretty solid exegesis, though the people who want the verse to support innate immortality of the soul deny it altogether, so it's nice to have someone else see it as well.
  20. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination". - Proverbs 28:9 KJV