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  1. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    It absolutely does identify these "many" as saints, right there in verse 12. Hint: Compare to 1 John 5:3 KJV and Romans 8:7 KJV.
  2. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    It's all good. Keep on ignoring important verses that prove the exception if you like, but I assure you Moses, Enoch, and Elijah are shaking their heads and facepalming away.
  3. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    You've provided only partiality. We must take ALL verses into consideration, and not settle on a select few and ignore the rest. You've failed to address what the "dispute" over Moses' body was: Taxidermy? Medical science? I get it. No answer is better than concession. It's all good. I'll keep...
  4. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    Colossians 1:27 KJV “…Christ IN you, the hope of glory”. “…and the truth (Jesus) is not in him (the presumptuous sinner).” “If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him.”
  5. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    OK, it seems your stubborn resistance to the truth has run its course on this topic, so I think it's best we agree to disagree. I know for a fact the Bible says Enoch did not "taste death", God took Elijah to heaven where no mortal body can withstand the unbridled glory of God, and Moses was...
  6. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    What stands in your way is solid Blblical exegesis. You keep preaching that Gospel of Inconsistency which says God is perfectly happy with resurrecting people before Christ the Firstfruits of the Resurrection was raised, but He's staunchly opposed to GLORIFYING someone before Christ was...
  7. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    He never died, so "death" has not bearing on the experience of Enoch.
  8. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    What you need to learn is that Enoch, Moses, Elijah, the "many" of the bodies of the saints which slept, etc., are the exceptions to the rule.
  9. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    "Those" referring to the ones who pertain to the rule, not the exception like Moses, Elijah, Enoch, etc.
  10. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    It's not going beyond Scripture to say that there will be those who were saved that will hear Jesus tell them to depart - Matthew 24:12-13 KJV plainly speaks of saints who allowed widespread iniquity to turn their agape cold, which is a far more spitworthy spiritual condition than the merely...
  11. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    It's called a divine exception. For instance, the Bible plainly says one man can't suffer the penalty of sin for another, but the man Jesus did just that, right? EXCEPTION.
  12. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    When Scripture says the man never saw death, and you insist the man died, that's all one needs to conclude who agrees with lies and who agrees with Scripture.
  13. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    Yes, 365 days in his mortal body, the end of which was not by death, but by translation into his eternal body - the one with which he "appeared in glory" to Jesus.
  14. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    It's an invitation to stop calling up down and black white, friend. It's clearly written the man didn't "see death". Jesus said some would not "taste death". A blind man can see these phrases refer to the "experience" of death in a colloquial manner...why you cannot is uncertain. If only the...
  15. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    Moses is telling us that Enoch was 365 years old when God took him to heaven without seeing death. What's the hard part?
  16. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    I've got my Bible to tell me the truth! Enoch didn't see death - which means he didn't die. Prove me wrong.
  17. Phoneman777

    It's about "relationship"...right?

    100% agree. Will only those who don't know Jesus be told to depart from Jesus?
  18. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    The LORD buried him on the "atmosphere"? Seriously? I think you mean the Third Heaven...where God's throne is...where nobody gets buried b/c nobody dies.
  19. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    No need to hotly debate...we all know what it means to "see death" and "not see death". He was 365 when the Lord decided he'd walked the mean streets down here long enough and it was time to walk the streets of gold up there.