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Please show me the Scripture where Elijah was killed and buried, and don't say, "Well, the Psalmist says what man is there who never died" because Hebrews 11:5 KJV plainly tells you Enoch did not "taste death", right or wrong? What did Jesus mean when He said, "Some of you shall not taste death...

I keep proving you wrong, friend ;) You keep saying no man has been to heaven, but clearly Elijah was carried there in a fiery chariot. Jesus said "no man ascendeth up to heaven" in the context of going to learn of heavenly things and coming back to teach men - only He did that.

Nothing in Revelation 1:5 KJV about that "to immortality" - just "first born from the dead", which is a monkey wrench in your machinery, seeing many others resurrected before Jesus. Context, my friend! What's the context of Jesus' conversation with Nicodemus? Understanding and teaching heavenly...

God can't fast track Moses and Elijah to glory? I thought God could do anything. Yes, he is immortal, because there was a dispute over Moses' body between Satan and God concerning what was obviously His intention to resurrect him (unless you think the dispute was over who would get display...

Keep on preaching that Gospel of Inconsistency, friend. You teach it WAS OK for God to resurrect all those people before Jesus was. You teach it WAS NOT OK for God to glorify Moses and Elijah before Jesus was. "Consistency, thou art a jewel".

You obviously can't see the difference between what happened at Mount Sinai and at the Mount of Transfiguration. Does the NT say "Moses' face appeared in glory" or "Moses, the entire person, "appeared in glory"? Luke makes it plain why Moses and Elijah were there. What you don't understand is...

I already dealt with it in post #51: F2F said: You didn't deal with how they were made immortal without Christ's sacrifice...you still have a massive problem! Phoneman777 replied: How many resurrections took place before Jesus - the "First Fruit of the Resurrection" - was sacrificed? Oh...so...

Yes, because part of them haven't been received while other parts have. No one has received the city who's builder and maker is God in the heaven and earth made new yet, but many have received the Blessing by which "all the families of the Earth" are to be blessed: Jesus. Please stop trying to...

So, now God transfigured all three? Where does it say that in Scripture? The only verses which speak of this Mount experience record Jesus alone as having been transfigured - conversely, the text plainly says Moses and Elijah "appeared in glory" of their glorified, eternal bodies. How many...

Bro, PLEASE READ Psalms 2! It says right there that God is going to give to Jesus "the nations" for His inheritance and He "will break them with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces". Totally explains the symbolism of Revelation 19:15 KJV.

Yes, they "received not the promise". What promise? You say, "The promise of an immortal body". I say the promise of a city who's builder and maker is God and deliverance from the destruction of sin and sinners, which is still future. What does Scripture say? Luke 9:30-31 KJV [30] And...

I'm not wrong because our point of contention is whether they're be life on Earth after the glorious appearing of Christ: you claim it will continue uninterrupted for all eternity, while Peter says when He comes as a thief in the night, the whole thing will implode. Jeremiah also speaks of a...

Of course we can have the assurance that we know Him, and thus are known by Him: "Hereby we do know that we know Him (and are known by Him) if we keep His commandments" - the reason is that we demonstrate the "agape" of God by happily keeping His commandments while the wicked can't keep them...

Is Revelation 19:15 KJV symbolic? Yes. Does the Bible tell us how to interpret its symbolism? Yes, by "line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little" and by "holy men (the Bible prophets) which spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost". Psalms 2 tells you how Jesus will...

What I mean is why do you insist that Moses' resurrection to an immortal body and Elijah's translation into an immortal body violate Hebrews 11? Neither one of them, nor anyone else, has received the promises of Jesus' kingdom because they aren't fulfilled yet. The "city who's builder and...

No, they are already immortalized via God's choice to grant it to them ahead of time. Your entire argument falls apart right here: QUESTION: What was the promise to Abraham and Abraham's seed? ANWSER: "A city whose building and maker is God" - the "New Heaven and New Earth". A city where the...

Doesn't Psalm 2 say when God gives the world as an inheritance to Jesus, He will "break them with a rod of iron, and will dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel"? You must allow the rest of the Bible to interpret Revelation, and not interpret Revelation with Revelation alone, AS YOU DO. When...

The OSAS crowd claims only those Jesus never knew are cast into the Lake of Fire and those Jesus knows and has saved can't be among the "unknown". I've heard it for years. Which is why it's important to note that Jesus said "many", not "all".

When the Stone strikes the image of Daniel 2, how much of that image remains? I assure you SDA doctrine is solid. It's those who think they're be a continuation of life down here after Jesus comes as a thief that are off base. Statue in Daniel 2 is crumbled and the wind "carried them away", the...

Jesus was...Moses and Elijah had their immortal bodies for reasons already outlined. You didn't know that before the JWs got involved, it was a common belief among Christianity that Jesus is Michael - the "One Who is as God Who is the ruler of the angels". A Soul is a person, living or dead -...