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  1. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    I see what passage to which you refer. You need to read Daniel 2 and the rest of Scripture along with Revelation, friend. John is seeing future events, where Jesus will come having (present tense) a "sharp sword" which is His WORD, not a literal sword. With that "sword" He "shall" (future...
  2. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    Words mean things. While it's not expected that anyone will change their minds about OSAS, this was not the intended reason for the OP. Can we all agree that Matthew 7:22 KJV is not the stand alone "irrefutable evidence" for OSAS it is claimed to be by those who see the letters "m-a-n-y" but...
  3. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    Differentiation exists between the two. The Soul is the whole comprised of the two parts, the Body and the Breath of Life.
  4. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    A Soul goes nowhere at death - it ceases to be. How do we know? Because Genesis 2:7 KJV says the Soul comes into existence only as a consequence of the union of the Body and the Breath of Life, and at death, the Body returns to the dust, the Breath of Life returns to God exactly as it was when...
  5. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    Yes, at the Second Coming, the wicked will at that present time drop dead (present tense) "at the brightness of His coming", but after 1,000 years (future tense) all the wicked that have ever lived shall be resurrected, judged and found guilty, and cast into the Lake of Fire to suffer the Second...
  6. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    The resurrection is at the end, but God chose to take Elijah to heaven beforehand - where no mortal body can withstand the unveiled glory of God. Elijah would not have survived unless he'd been translated. Also, what body was Moses in when he spoke to Jesus in the Mount, his mortal body that...
  7. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    We know Elijah went to heaven in a fiery chariot, and Moses was resurrected - because both appeared to Jesus in the Mount over a thousand years after their Earthly walk, which can be accomplished only in their resurrection, immortal "house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens", never in...
  8. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    All future events are foretold in the future tense. And, yes, after Jesus arrives in the clouds at His Second Coming, His "rod of iron" rule of destruction falls down upon the Earth as the righteous ascend up to Him, according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV and 2 Thessalonians 2:8 KJV.
  9. Phoneman777

    Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

    Don't be emotional. Tell me, how many of those FBI and insurance claims pertained to bonafine Protestant ministers, and how many to wolves in sheep's clothing? You'll find that the numbers pale in comparison to that of the priests.
  10. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    Elijah was carried to heaven in a fiery chariot, Enoch was "not for God took him", Moses was resurrected, according to Jude, the "many of the bodies of the saints which slept" arose and went to heaven...while the vast majority will only go at the Second Coming, we ought to acknowledge the ones...
  11. Phoneman777

    Christians are sinners, but not of the devil

    Able to choose Satan? Yes, but as self destructive as a sane man choosing to crawl into a cage with a ferocious lion. The decision to accept/retain or reject salvation is purely our decision, and ever available to all for the taking - unless through persistent rebellion we reach the point of...
  12. Phoneman777

    I will send my messenger

    I'm of the persuasion that no human that went to heaven and received a glorified body is coming back to us. Sure, Moses and Elijah appeared in glory to Jesus on the Mount of Transfig but no where in Scripture do we see such appearing to us.
  13. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    The question was "If the Earth doesn't continue after Jesus comes, why does it say He will rule over the nations"? The answer is that His "rule" is not going to be peaceful. As soon as He takes off His high priestly robes and puts on His kingly robes and comes to take possession of the Earth...
  14. Phoneman777

    Christians are sinners, but not of the devil

    Good point - I very much agree. I don't believe any more angels are going to choose to follow Satan, especially after what they saw him do to Jesus at the Cross. Their time to choose sides is over...is ours? Remember in Revelation where it says just before Jesus comes He's going to say these...
  15. Phoneman777

    "And I Will Profess Unto Them, I Never Knew...Who, Exactly?"

    We freely admit there will be many in that day who Jesus never knew who will be shocked to hear Him tell them to depart... Now, please admit there will be plenty in that day who Jesus knew full well who will be shocked to hear Him tell them to depart with those other many.
  16. Phoneman777

    Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

    DB, you're completely off base. The 6 percent number comes from over 30 years of hands on research by a former priest/professional psychologist Richard Sipe who worked directly with guilty priests at "treatment centers" run by the church. Understand? And he isn't the only one saying it. At one...
  17. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    No man knoweth the day or the hour...but prophecy says it will be after the "time of trouble", after the Mark of the Beast, after the 7 last plagues. Every eye shall see Him, but it doesn't say all will see Him "at the same time". What it does say is "as lightning cometh out of the East and...
  18. Phoneman777

    What exactly is pre-Tribulation, Tribulation and Rapture?

    What is meant by "rule over the nations with a rod of iron"? Again, we have to allow the Bible to interpret itself: Psalm 2:7-9 KJV [7] I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto Me, Thou art My Son; this day have I begotten Thee. [8] Ask of Me, and I shall give Thee the heathen for...
  19. Phoneman777

    Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

    Look, DB, no one is arguing that Protestant churches don't have incidents of child sex abuse, OK? However, you are being extremely unreasonable and reckless by ignoring the following truth: When you differentiate legitimate mainline denomination Protestant churches led by fine, educated...
  20. Phoneman777

    Difference between Catholic and Protestant.

    So, the "office of the papacy" is Divine, but he men who occupy it are not, though they claim all the names that apply to Jesus (Savior, Redeemer, Everlasting Father, Almighty God, etc.) apply to the man occupying the office, not just the office alone? Sounds like a contradiction.