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:rolleyes: OK, lets say you are working as an undercover FBI agent. If you really believe telling the truth won't ruin your life, then blow your cover and give them your real name. Forget about your alias, you know, the lie given to you to protect your identity and henceforth your life. Will...

Protecting people from what truth? The gospel or "truth" in general? If its the latter, then I'd rather tell a lie if being truthful results in my life being ruined. If it isn't for the word of God, then it isn't worth it, which is the truth the scripture's you cited are referring to.

In a perfect world, like the one before the fall and the world to come with the Lords return, there wouldn't be a need to lie. We live in a fallen dog eat dog world, so therefore, sometimes telling the 'truth' won't always be in your best interests or anyone elses. Notions of 'honor' and...

Buddy, I'm being tested plenty with what I'm going through now.....so ummmm......yep, no medical issues necessary.

I would rather die, because there is nothing in this world worth going through that kind of hassle, not even for family, but that's just me.

Well, I'm with you on the parliamentary/democratic order in which churches are run. If we want to get down to brass tacks, when Jesus Christ returns there will be no democratically run government as we see them today. When it says he will rule the nations with a rod of iron, it means that the...

I think the only "prophecy" as I call it that you can trust when it comes down to it is time, because time always tells the truth.

We're all part of the problem, his behavior is bordering on trollish, making multiple threads about the same damn thing, and we're enabling him, the moderators more than anybody as I see it.

M'kay sport, I BELIEVE you.

Explains why I have so far seen ten or so threads started on our alleged "very near" departure within the last two to three months. It has become beyond nauseating. Those people will be waiting for a very, very long time.

Well, no actually, I don't know you that well. I haven't really been paying attention to every single post you've made, nor will I bother going through three days worth of posts. I would probably just clarify what I mean by "believe" and be done with it instead of just saying "show me a post"...

James would be disobeying Christ's clear order to not spread the message to the gentiles if he did.

Paul chosen to spread the Gospel to the Gentiles: I don't understand why this is so hard for some people to understand.

Well, here is one reason: So, if you are to use the term "believer" as loosely as you and others on here do, then Devils should also be saved just by merit of them being "believers", should they not?

:rolleyes: Then by all accounts, you shouldn't even be drawing breath if you are living in the Great Tribulation. And no, I don't fear death for the testimony Jesus. Revelation: No, this time is not today as you claim, not even close. Be glad that you can still speak of Jesus without concern...

Out of six or so billion people on earth, only 144,000 of the tribes of Israel are sealed with the one in revelation. Are you a Jew? Who cares if you are are really, only a handful of them get sealed. It would be foolish to put your trust in some seal of an elect few to protect you from the...

Yep, me too pal, so what point are you trying to make in this thread that you haven't already made in your other threads?

If this is the same seal referred to in Revelation, then we all better hope we are sealed because I'm sure we all know what happens to those who don't have it. I think this is a fate worthy of the following emoticon: :eek::eek::eek:

Are we talking about the seal of God here?

I agree with the sentiment, this wasn't even my original bone of contention. Its irrelevant to what happens to you regardless if you believe you are "sent" or not. There has been of believers who claim it is their mission to spread the good word to North Korea, which resulted in nothing good...