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Wow, seriously, look up corporate election, because you don't understand the concept at all! I have no idea what " every saved person is born at different times in history" even means? I can find you about fifty verses confirming that belief comes before salvation if you would like.

That's the most racist post I've seen on here yet I believe. Congratulations!

God isn't racist. In fact I'm not sure skin color is ever mentioned in the Bible. The Bible is rarely concerned with appearances either of individuals or of populations. It divides men largely in terms of whom their forefathers were, or in other words, in terms of descent or lineage.

Sure there's some actual racism, but some of what you have called racist is merely a different view point. I've noticed the younger kids often can't comprehend that race isn't real, or that people who want to be colorblind are not racist. As for gays, there are real concerns, but that doesn't...

His point is that God used even Israel's rebellion to bring about his plan to offer salvation to all. This also refers back to a conversation Moses had with God in Exodus: "the LORD said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your...

That the Messiah would come through the line of Israel. That was God's purpose, fulfilled in this case by Jacob being chosen for the job. "Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! [1] Amen." This is the plan that...

It's the prophecies about Israel being the line through which salvation would come to the world.

You really don't understand your own theology? If we are irresistibly chosen for salvation, and good works, etc, then everything we do is actually God's doing. And you already claimed that God creates evil, so that includes all evil being God's doing. Perhaps you honestly didn't know that you...

This isn't even about salvation. It's about God choosing Esau and Jacob for different jobs.

I have to prove what is obvious? If I am hired for a job through the means of having a good application, then what got me the job?

Because you are talking nonsense. Faith is not a work and you have certainly not shown otherwise.

You don't understand corporate election. I believe I've tried to explain it to you before, but you can't seem to grasp that being chosen in Christ means that we are not individually chosen for salvation, but those who believe are the chosen.

Perhaps you could explain what you mean because it makes no sense to me. Read Galatians, yes the whole thing. It's not that long. And it explains in detail that faith and works are very different.

Lol, now I'm a hypocrite? What did I say to merit such an insult? I know that faith is not a work. [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast "It" (salvation)is a gift we receive when we exercise...

It says right there that we are saved through belief. I don't know how you can misunderstand that.

In the context of the parable, his explanation is that the one who has been his follower longer doesn't merit special treatment or reward. He's explaining grace. Obviously the chosen are those who accept this grace instead of demanding that their works make them special.

Read Galatians. Faith is the opposite of works.

Then you are not consistent with your theology.

Faith is not a work. Good grief, you have been thoroughly indoctrinated by the hyper Calvinists.

I can only do what God ordained me to do, according to your theology. If you are correct, then God is the one who is causing me to have a little fun with this.