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  1. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I disagree mainly because you choose to look at these scriptures that have phrases like, "wailing and gnashing of teeth" literally which certainly is your right I just disagree with taking them literally. I just believe that people who take such phrases literally and believe in a fiery torment...
  2. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I believe differently about the word soul than you do. From what I get from the scriptures I am a soul I don't have one, the way these terms are used in the Bible, it becomes evident that they basically refer to (1) people, (2) animals, or (3) the life that a person or an animal has. (Ge 1:20...
  3. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Again I ask the question why would God resurrect the unrighteous if they're sleeping and having a eternal nightmare and you using the lake of fire don't cut it, it's simply called the second death, as you said they are sleeping in death so why would God resurrect the unrighteous just to throw...
  4. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Myself I believe the Lazarus rich man story to be a parable. A picture story. I don't believe Jesus was being literal when he told this story to the Jews around him. Think about it the rich man was asking father Abraham to send Lazarus with a drop of water to ease his pain which actually would...
  5. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    The dead both righteous and unrighteous will be awakened from this sleep. It's called the Resurrection. So if for the unrighteous hell is like a nightmare why would God wake them up from the nightmare since God is the one who judged them worthy of this nightmare which is suppose to be a eternal...
  6. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    One thing I've never believed in or even found in the scriptures is that eternal life to be a punishment. From what I've found in the scriptures eternal life was always a reward for the faithful or who God judged as righteous. For a person to be burned in hell by fire while still being...
  7. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    You say cults caused the word perish to mean annihilation, but perhaps what you call a cult God doesn't. They called Jesus Christ the ruler of the demons did they not so they considered his Apostles and disciples just as bad right? Does that mean those people were right in making such judgments...
  8. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Should women teach the bible?

    People really don't truly read what I communicate. I never said at any time that women couldn't teach or preach to people about God and his kingdom. I said that from what I've read in the scriptures when Paul was saying he didn't allow women to teach he was talking about not allowing women to...
  9. BARNEY BRIGHT

    The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

    Then as I reason from the scriptures it seems you're saying you don't believe Jesus willingly sacrificed his humanity for humanity. To me it seems You believe that Jesus sacrificed his humanity then took it back. I mean what you believe seems to me that you believe that Jesus sacrificed his...
  10. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Should women teach the bible?

    People can think Jesus denies scripture but he doesn't. The scriptures only speaks out against a woman having authority positions in the church. Positions like a Reverend, Bishop, Deacon, Elder, etc. While it is true we all, including women, are preachers of God's word, God Son Jesus doesn't do...
  11. BARNEY BRIGHT

    The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

    Yes but it wasn't a recognition of the physical body he had which was put to death that was recognized but rather something he said or did.
  12. BARNEY BRIGHT

    The Bodily Resurrection & Return Of Jesus, And Who Jesus Is In Islamic Eschatology

    What I see in the scriptures is Jesus coming to his Apostles and disciples in many different bodies. I mean, don't you think if Jesus appeared in the same body which he died, the Apostles and disciples would have recognized him. Sure Jesus appeared to Thomas with a body that had the marks in his...
  13. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Context! Context! Context!

    Everyone has a right on how they see scripture that's true and we should respect one who's exercising that right, but that doesn't mean what they believe concerning scripture is true and people have the right to respectfully disagree with what another believes. The problems come when someone...
  14. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Context! Context! Context!

    You're right, people are going to do it no matter how wrong we think it is.
  15. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    I believe the righteous will have two stages of a resurrection of the dead. First the righteous who will be in heaven with Jesus in that heavenly kingdom. Those who will be kings Judges and Priests ruling with Jesus. Then after Armageddon those humans who have been judged righteous will be...
  16. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    Think what you want but you're the one who continues to take scriptures out of context to prove what you believe and you completely ignore certain scriptures that tell you black and white you must die to be changed to a powerful spiritual being rewarded with immortality and inheriting...
  17. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    No, I don't think you're better than Jesus. He had to sacrifice his human life so those who will be in heaven with Jesus and be Kings, Judges and Priests with him in that heavenly kingdom ruling over the Earth must also sacrifice their human lives getting a resurrection like him rewarded with...
  18. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    I understand Christians who will be with Jesus in heaven must die before receiving their reward. (1 Corinthians 15:35 -54)
  19. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Rapture Day (Catching up of Believers) is very Near!!

    I know people can read and are not idiots, so it continues to surprise me that people will take scriptures out of context to prove their doctrines. If you read 1 Thessalonians 4: 13-17 you'll see a Rapture isn't being discussed, but instead a resurrection is being discussed. These scriptures...
  20. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Context! Context! Context!

    I just don't think it's right to use a scripture to try to prove a doctrine someone believes in when a person can read for his self or her self that the scripture in question is actually proving the opposite.