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I don't need to substantiate what is clearly written. One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Why does God blame us for what? And who is us? Read chapter 3. Parallel...

How many verses do you need to be convinced that salvation is offered to all? 1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his...

Wow, convoluted much? Jesus tells us who the sheep are right there in John 10. They are the ones who enter through him. . 9I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture

I don't know what contradiction you are talking about. You need to be more specific.

I've had too many of these conversations to take them seriously. If I am predestined to life and my neighbor isn't, then logically, he is predestined for death. That is fatalism, no matter how you spin it.

Read the whole book instead of just a few verses in the center of the ninth chapter... and read it without any Calvinist glasses on. It's obvious.

Job was ticked at God and I can't blame him for that. But he was wrong to say God took away from him, when God was the one that gave it and Satan took it away. It's a mistake we all probably make at some point. All good comes down from the Father. The impression I get from the story is that God...

Exactly. If they did that, they would read scripture in context and understand that when Jesus said " This generation." He meant " this generation." Instead of trying to use the Bible like a magic decoder ring....

The irony is that they were all wrong about what was happening, especially Job. Only it was really Satan that was beating the crap out of Job. You have to remember that Job doesn't get to see behind the curtain, only the reader does.

What an intelligent reply. What are you 12 years old?

Only God says that man's sin grieves him. God says they did things that never entered his mind. God says he repented of creating them. What you are proposing is nothing less than fatalism. Nothing matters if everything is predetermined. Try living as if this were true for one day. It's impossible.

How do you know the mind of God? Men have debated these concepts for thousands of years. But the consensus among the earliest church fathers was that free will is real and in fact, fatalism was a gnostic, heresy.

Which was Jesus warning them about what would happen in that generation, which did happen in AD 70.

You completely misunderstand Romans 9. It's not about being chosen for salvation. And verse 20 isn't about questioning God's sovereignty. Did you notice that the objector actually believes people can't resist God's will, but Paul confirms we can?

That would be Jesus.

Chapter and verse, please, and no, secret codes don't count.

Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." Galatians 3:7. "For they are not all Israel which are of Israel; neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children… but the children of promise are counted for the seed." Romans 9:6-8. "For...

You are Israel too if you are in Christ.

I'm not sure what that means?

My thoughts are not that important. Scripture saying we can fall away is.