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But the law was not given for that reason. We've already discussed that.

And what he pleases is to give men the choice of accepting or rejecting him. There is always an " if" Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

There is no one that adequately describes the atonement. Christ as Victor, as our substitution, as our ransom, all are equally true, plus more.

No, it's conditional atonement. If I give you a gift only on one condition, you can't say you were not offered the gift, only that you refuse the condition.

Not just through his word. Through many different means. And why would you limit him to not speaking verbally? He certainly can if he wishes.

Death is obviously used metaphorically here. We are also said to be dead to sin once we are saved... Doesn't mean we can't sin. This Quickening is not irresistible. People resist the Spirit even as believers. "stubborn people! You are heathen at heart and deaf to the truth. Must you forever...

God doesn't speak to you personally? The holy spirit is active, not sleeping. He still speaks directly to us in many ways, with scripture, and nature and personal conviction, even through secular stories. You're limiting God terribly. So much for his sovereignty.

The payment is made for all who accept it. A gift is not a gift if it can't be refused... It would be spiritual rape.

It makes no sense. The ones that are cast into the fire volunteer to go there.

Ok, then, you are smarter than God... thanks for the laugh!

Yes. It's simply wrong. Scripture never portrays an all controlling God

Penal substitution is woefully inadequate. Contains an element of Truth, but doesn't even begin to cover the full implications of atonement.

Oh good night. Are we supposed to take this seriously

Not everyone is in tune with the Spirit, so of course we still have the chaos bringer doing his thing. And even those that do have the spirit are not perfect. We will never experience total peace on this Earth until Christ reigns.

More people, more murders. I would have to see specific information that says there were statistically less killings per capita then to believe it. So you're promoting anarchy?

Oh I thought we were just discussing totally random concepts... If we're allowed to bring Bible into it that's a whole nother deal. No, we can't perfectly obey the law, but that doesn't mean the law has no point. Scripturally, the point of the law is to point us to Christ. In the secular world...

That kind of leaves out a creative God, who designed his creation deliberately. Which is exactly what scripture teaches.

" You can’t get on with the rest of your life if you are forever taking your spectacles off and inspecting them; indeed, one of the problems with spectacles is that if you break them you may not be able to see properly in order to mend them yourself. So it is with worldviews: when you are...

Like the Virgin birth and Jesus' death and literal Resurrection, but not on non-essentials, like calvinism vs arminianism.

Lol, maybe if you spoke English you would get more answers... we all live in a Land of laws. Probably because history has shown us the alternative, some of us become beasts with out laws.