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Nothing fatalistic here, just missing context. You have to read the whole passage to know who it is who the father give him.

Um, you just said that the verse applies to us, and now you are denying it?

Or perhaps we have actually read our entire Bibles and found that God is not who you claim he is. And we have read Romans 9:20 and find it doesn't mean what you think it means. And the same is true of every other verse that you view through your Calvinist lenses.

The word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: "Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will let you hear my words." So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it...

The preacher guy.

Still waiting.

Must be strange to believe everything in Scripture is about you. Why would you think Paul was talking to a reader in the year 2020? Look at chapter three of Romans for a parallel passage. Paul explains why the gentiles were getting saved, ( by faith) and not the Jews, so it makes perfect sense...

So, now you are trying to say I'm not saved because I don't agree with your theology. Yawn, same old, same old.

Wow, that was deep.

That's not what is going on in Romans 9. Paul is laying out how God brought about the plan of salvation through Israel, despite Israel's rebellion. He's not talking about individuals being saved here. verse 19: "One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to...

Let's please look at Romans 9:20, which you all like so much. It actually confirms free will. No one could talk back to God otherwise. In fact in Calvinism, no one talks back to God, they do exactly what he programs them to do.

Lol, the vast majority of Christiandom must have always been dishonest then.

God doesn't irresistibly predestine anyone. You just misunderstand the scriptures.

God wasn't happy with his people when they sacrificed their children to false gods. And I'm sure he's equally angry when we do the same. God doesn't take glory from this slaughter, Satan does. "But they mingled with the nations And learned their practices, And served their idols, Which became a...

If that was the truth, which it isn't, in your system, the only reason I can't accept it is because God has predestined me not to accept it. So having the whole discussion is totally pointless. I'm well aware of what Dr Sproul taught. It's fatalism. And it makes God more like the force in Star...

Who says God isn't sovereign? But that word doesn't mean what you take it to mean. For example, it doesn't mean God irresistibly chooses some people for salvation. That is why we pray, because praying matters, it changes things, even if we can't understand how. If everything is already set in...

I like that verse. Funny how it proves the opposite of what the reformed claim it does. God is in charge. But he is not all controlling. There's a huge difference. No, what I hate about the mistakes of the reformed is how they paint God as evil. That steals his glory instead of giving him glory.

I don't know that I've had what you would call paranormal experiences. I have had what some might call coincidences that I know are God things. I'll just give one example: I was driving past the cemetery where Mom is buried thinking about stopping and " seeing" her, which I rarely do, because I...

So you pray for God to do what you don't believe is God's will. If calvinists are correct, your prayers are of no use, because God has already irresistibly chosen a few for salvation and the rest for damnation.

Condescending was certainly the correct word choice. Being a believer doesn't make one a doormat. For the record, I don't hate Calvinists.