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What's with all the padding and helmets, are they riding motorcycles... :jest: Looks like their afraid crashing... :Laughingoutloud: In Australia we have a similar sport with an oval shaped ball but we don't wear pads and helmets like you American's do. We're real men Soccer is the real...

But geez, England had the ref's and VAR on their side vs Norway. 1st England goal the ball hit the camera wire, gol should of been disallowed. VAR said nothing despite the ball having a sensor in it that should of picked it up, and the ref didn't even go to the screen to have a look despite...

My earliest memory of a world cup was 1986. I was just a child. But those 2 goals will never be forgotten. Most contravoursial goal and the greatest goal in world cup history, and I think it happened within the space of 10 minutes. I actually thought it was a semi final but your right it was a...

I had to come back here just to watch that bear in the store again. That's so funny. First me makes a mock lunge at the guy as if to say "get out of my way I want chocolate", then he just grabs a chocolate bar and leaves. :Laughingoutloud: Second time he chooses to dine in. Then when his...

It started with 48 nations and fans filled with hopes and dreams. Now 44 nations and their fans have been shattered and only 4 countries remain in the semi finals of the world cup. France vs Spain England vs Argentina They are the top 4 countries in the FIFA rankings. Who will be victorious...

In order to adhere to the modern day belief of being born again, people must twist the definitions of simple words such as water, and ignore or dismiss large amounts of scripture that refutes their view. It is quite obvious that the ancient interpretation of born again is correct. Being born...

Oh your saved. Your already in heaven despite being here on earth. Chkl: They say exactly what they say. You just choose to ignore them because they are in opposition to your belief. Mark 1:8 8 I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.” All the synoptic gospels...

Not my opinion. Its in scripture which you choose to ignore Baptism is of water and spirit Why do you avoid my question? It's becoming obvious why you do so. The rest of John 3 is a clear indication that being born again involves baptism You can have your opinion but your arguments are very...

Acts2:38 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit Romans 6:3-4 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death...

That's your confusion. Baptism is of water and spirit. And your still avoiding my question as to why the rest of John 3 is focused on baptism, immediately after the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus?

I'm talking about the belief of the early church, in the first few centuries, that born again relates to baptism. As early as Paul. He believed in baptism Romans 6:3-4 3 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore...

That's OK but it's got nuffin on the bear walking into the gas station to get a chocolate bar

Well I've listened to the arguments for this modern day interpretation of born again but in my opinion they don't stack up compared to the view of the early church. I believe, as the ancient Christians did, that being born again has something to do with baptism, at the very least. Given water...

Does it happen in one moment or over time?

"sacramentalism" I never said anything like that. You said being born of water symbolises baptism. I agree

So that i can better understand your position, can you please explain to me what your interpretation of born again is, what connection it has with being born of the spirit and its connection with the rest of chapter 3 which clearly has a lot of baptising in it?

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I've been voting for Pauline's independent party for many years, in both federal and state elections. She has had a huge surge in popularity and has topped several different polls most recently. Its the first time an independent party has topped the two major parties here. Immigration is her...

I just don't understand what your objection is to my opinion when it is actually the same as yours. There are others who disagree with you. Wouldn't it make more sense to argue with them who disagree with you

Sorry. I think I was trying to answer someone else and accidentally referred to you