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That's a very complicated explanation and it's the first time I have heard of the term spiritual regeneration. My view is much simpler. Its that the term born again, from water and spirit, that Jesus describes in John 3 most probably refers to baptism.

John says born again from water and spirit. Saying that water stands for birth fluid of the original birth is not a very good explanation in my opinion because birth fluid is not water.

Ok but you did admit that water does appear to symbolise the water of a baptism. I grew up in a Catholic family and went to Catholic school. I never heard of the term born again. Although I don't adhere to many of the doctrines of the RCC I think they and the Orthodox churches are right on this...

It's is also about that, but I see it mostly being about baptism. At the very least it mentions it several times So how do you link being born of the spirit to the modern view of being born again? And just so we are both on the same page, What is your definition of being born again?

Sorry I don't see how this relates to being born again through water and spirit. None of those things are mentioned here

Matthew 3:11 11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Acts 1:5 5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy...

I don't understand what your trying to say here. But your using a quote from another chapter that isn't talking about being born again

This is how the ancient early church interpreted it and that's what I believe

You agree that born of water is an obvious reference to baptism. You really disagree that the rest of the chapter being about baptism. What do you think the rest of the chapter is about? To answer your question, i think being born of the spirit means we receive the Holy Spirit. Just as God's...

John 4:1 Says Jesus did not baptise John 3:22 Says Jesus did baptise John 3:26 Also says Jesus did baptise 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.” The...

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@Lambano @SavedInHim @Rockerduck @Debp Hello brothers and sisters My opinion is not a popular one but it is the opinion that was/is held by the early church, interpreted by the ancients. I believe that born again refers to baptism. - We see in John 3:22 that Jesus did baptise and we see in...

That's a good way to put it. I don't believe anyone has 100% certain knowledge, and the ones who claim to know everything are the ones I'm skeptical about the most. And so I admit that I don't know everything, I don't understand everything, I just know that God exists and therefore I have...

What does this term "born again" mean to you? And how can you be sure you are "born again"? How does "water and spirit" apply to your understanding of being born again? The term comes from the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus in John 3. What do you make of the fact that the rest of...

Reading all of these different opinions confuses me. I just don't get it

Hi there. I'm actually from Melbourne, born and raised. Just living in Adelaide at the moment, travelling and working around Australia, it's a cool city. France and Spain look good, so do Argentina and Brasil but remember, they haven't played any good teams yet and anything can still happen on...

Darwins ideas are outdated and have since been proven to be incorrect. All living organisms didn't not evolve from a single common ancestor and no new species has ever evolved from another species. They were all just assumptions invented by atheists eager to disprove God and have since been...

The fossil record is a good place to start. Scientists have always been desperate to find "the missing link", a fossil of a transitional species between ape and human. In the first half of the 20th century they had piltdown man. Most of the theory rested on piltdown man, supposedly discovered...

My mother is 75yo as well. You have beauty on the outside and on the inside in your heart and soul. May Gods grace and peace continue to be with you Deb

Hey Deb your very attractive. Did you ever get married or did you remain single?