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    Saudi Nuke Deal

    Trumps building the biggest surveillance state web ever seen on this planet. I don’t get why MAGAs aren’t up in arms over this.
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    What is DEI?

    They should have called it Diversity, Inclusion and Equity but the acronym DIE would’ve revealed the true intent.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I mean the people of God — anyone, in any age, who believed God and had it counted to them as righteousness. Abraham, David, the thief on the cross, you and me. Yes I agree there is no Jew and Gentile in Christ.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Who is Israel in Acts 1:6? The Godly Jews. The ones who loved God and kept His commandments. Remember there are two Israel’s in the Bible, Godly Israel and the enemies of the gospel. The enemies of the gospel were the ones who hated God, persecuted the people, murdered the prophets and shut up...
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    Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

    How do you figure that? People can’t even agree on which copies of the originals are the right ones.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Is your view that Judah and Israel are two different peoples, or one people that was politically divided for a few centuries?
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The kingdom was restored to the godly Jews at Pentecost. It was taken from the Pharisees who lorded over the people and given back to the people, as it was in the beginning. Jesus didn't give them a time because they should have already known from what had just happened at the resurrection.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    In Amos 8 God says he’s done with Israel forever. In the gospels Jesus says the kingdom has been taken and given to another nation. God is done using Israel forever. In Amos 8 the sun goes dark at noon. At the crucifixion the sun goes dark at noon. In Amos 8 there is mourning as for an only...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Yeah it sounds like typical Old Testament cryptic language. Just enough to hint as to what it's talking about but not enough to prove it without other scripture to tie it all together.... here a little there a little. As for who are they. I don't know for sure, but I think they are people in...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I'm not sure how someone arrives at that conclusion when Amos 8 is a Messianic prophecy of Christ dying on the cross. If you read further down in Amos 8 and compare it to the crucifixion, it's the same story. Amos 8:3 — "And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Before I get into the Daniel breakdown, can I ask you one thing that I keep getting stuck on? In Amos 8:2, God says of Israel, "The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more." That reads to me like a final word - the end has come, and He won't pass by them...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Where do you see the second coming in Daniel's 70 weeks? Anointing the Most Holy? Just making sure I understand where you’re coming from.
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    The First Resurrection

    The death of the body isn't in question. We agree a body is dead once the soul and spirit have gone. What's in question is whether the soul is still in the body at the moment the moment the body dies, or has already departed. Your verses prove the first point but they don't address the second.
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    The First Resurrection

    Thank you for answering. Jesus says that believers never die, and Paul gives a second witness to this, explaining how it happens: those of us who are alive and remain won't die, but will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. We're also given two examples of this process in Enoch and Elijah...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I know what you’re saying and I agree. Any week beyond 70 adds more weeks to the 70. But I don’t think the words confine it to contiguous weeks. It’s like 6 weeks are determined for my vacation time but that doesn’t mean the six weeks are contiguous.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You’re right it doesn’t say it has to be continuous but we know that it was because everything Daniel 9:24 was fulfilled in 70 weeks.
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    The First Resurrection

    Thanks for the reply but I agree with him on that. I look at the thousand years the same way I look at the cattle on a thousand hills, literal but not physical.
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    The First Resurrection

    I would like to get your view on what Paul said. 1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Paul includes himself in those who would be alive and translated when Jesus...
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    The First Resurrection

    I'm with you on the second death. Where we differ is on the first, and on two other things: whether Paul was including himself in "we which are alive and remain," and what Jesus meant when he said whoever believes in him will never die. So I don't have a counter to what you've said here.
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    The First Resurrection

    Every one of us, without exception, is born into the condition the Bible calls dead. That fits the verse exactly. No twisting, no bending, no exceptions needed. And Jesus said whoever believes in him will never die, which harmonizes completely with reading that other verse as the condition...