The First Resurrection

[IndianaRob]

He is still wrong IndianRob, because the "second death", as written in Rev.20, does not occur until after... Jesus' future "thousand years" reign with His elect. Where he is coming from is men's false doctrine called Amillennialism, which rejects any idea of a future literal 1,000 years reign by Christ and His elect.

Thanks for the reply but I agree with him on that. I look at the thousand years the same way I look at the cattle on a thousand hills, literal but not physical.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What do you mean by "bodily resurrected".

LOL. What else will be resurrected except for the body? What is dead? The body. Hello? Why are simple things beyond your grasp?

Do you actually think the "spiritual body" that Apostle Paul taught for the resurrection in 1 Corinthians 15 is not a type of body??

The spiritual body is what our natural body will be changed into. It will be incorruptible, glorious, powerful and immortal (1 Corinthians 15:42-54).

It's obvious the primitive tribal thinking you have about the resurrection.

LOL. Says the guy who asks what I mean by "bodily resurrected".

You think our flesh body is raised from the casket. It is not.

What else will be resurrected and changed into an immortal body? Those who are alive when Jesus returns at the last trumpet will be changed as well. What exactly do you think will be changed, if not our bodies?

Only Lord Jesus' flesh body did not see corruption, and it was at some point quickened to a spirit body, as written in 1 Cor.15 and 1 Peter 3.

That same thing will happen to use when He returns at the last trumpet.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

He is still wrong IndianRob, because the "second death", as written in Rev.20, does not occur until after... Jesus' future "thousand years" reign with His elect. Where he is coming from is men's false doctrine called Amillennialism, which rejects any idea of a future literal 1,000 years reign by Christ and His elect.

You are completely incapable of refuting Amillennialism, as you've proven repeatedly, so you're all talk.

 

[David in NJ]

None of that affects the context of Rev 20 being about the first of two groups to resurrect. That is what the first resurrection is, the first group to resurrect. Jesus is not being called the first resurrection in Rev 20.

If you apply the following Rule of the Spirit/Truth, you will have a more clear understanding.

God always Speaks Truth and HE only needs to Say it Once for it to remain Truth.

Because God is rich in Mercy, HE will Speak more then once when HE is emphasizing Truth for us.

God has Spoken more then once on CHRIST HIMSELF being the Resurrection.

The Law of TRUTH is that it is irrevocable when the TRUTH has been determined by GOD to be such.

CHRIST is the Resurrection = Irrevocable TRUTH

CHRIST is the Authority and SOURCE of the First Resurrection = Irrevocable TRUTH

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

 

[ewq1938]

I would like to get your view on what Paul said.

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Paul includes himself in those who would be alive and translated when Jesus comes.

Paul did not know if he would live to see the rapture or not. He didn't.

For his words to be true, either Paul somehow lives until a second coming still in our future, or he meant Jesus would come for him when it was his time to leave this world.

That second reading lines up with what Jesus said, that whoever believes in him will never die.

All believers have died so far, and more die every single day. Clearly Jesus was not talking about the death of the body