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...and yet "years and years of study "....with your omissions is telling, because you COMPLETELY MISS the heart of end times. 1) the gentile bride 2) the Jewish bride 3) the covenant Jews gathered 4) the Harvest dynamic 5) the purpose of the trib 6) the FACT OF 3 SEPARATE comings ( Matthew...

Harvest is used by Jesus over and over. I believe God is a God of purpose. Jesus being firstfruits points to harvest. If you study harvest, harvest is Either three ,or four parts, depending on how you look at the gleaners and corners. The church is depicted as grain. The Jewish harvest depicted...

Then why is firstfruits invoked in Jesus and the 144k? I am the one bringing something to the table you are ignorant of. The wedding is in heaven. Read Rev 19 and see for yourself. The bride has become the wife BEFORE the second coming. You made up the error that the wedding is after the...

Yes. Both sides believe the dead in christ are raised at the rapture. Jesus taught a pretrib rapture. Looks like we agree

Too bad you think harvest is an abstract term defining nothing. Pssssst ....the wedding supper parable has 4 parts. Harvest has 4 parts. I know, I know , investigation is your enemy.

My post; QUOTE ""Let’s take a look at Jesus coming in Matthew 24: 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the...

I asked you to name the 4 parts of harvest. Your reply is "show me"? What I am demonstrating is the omission of critical end times foundational understanding. If the "harvest" component is left out of end times view, we are GUARANTEED error.

Matt 24 has "one taken, one left behind"...BEFORE THE FLOOD. Postribs can not process that. Instead the damage control mode gets invoked and they say " oh God always gathers the wicked first " Wow....just ludicrous and silly. Noah gathered first Lot gathered first The baby Jesus gathered...

I used mat 24 and Rev 14 as a text. Your comment was "please use scripture" Huh? Then you post verses that both sides believe and use Your postrib doctrine boasts of "only one coming" Yet SCRIPTURE debunks that. Ahem....as I demonstrated in mat 24 ( 2 separate comings) and Rev 14 ( yet another...

Now take a closer look . By Jesus depicted as the FIRSTFRUITS OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION, that points directly to harvest. Harvest is 4 parts. 1st resurrection is 4 parts. Name them. I will wait.

QUOTE ""Let’s take a look at Jesus coming in Matthew 24: 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of...

I disagree with you but have to admit that made me laugh. Bless your day friend

Understanding comes out of a mind. Nope. Faith is BEYOND THE MIND. The human mind will lead you out of faith. Not good

God is not in your box. Logic is not the pathway to God. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are that pathway. God gave His Son Jesus so we might live. If you step back and ponder the gravity of God dying for man, without any faith, your brain will explode. The trinity is the same. Makes no sense. God...

Lol You left out the Jesus deity verses. SMH

Heb 1 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a...

The op: How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church? Answer , through Revelation by the Holy Spirit. ....same with all truth.

Except that in hebrews it says, " it pleased the Father that the Son is supreme."

I would add that Jesus is the creator of all things and the Father said, "All things were created through Jesus." What a dilemma for watchtower followers. Because now we have Jesus creating himself, since they declare Jesus is a created being.

1) the doctrine you are supporting is from the NIV translation. 2) The NIV INCORRECTLY reads " they came to life" That is what started all that false mess to begin with. 3) The problem is, the NIV is the DOMINANT VERSION in the churches. So...you have tons of people like yourself with some HUGE...