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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    No The jews are a different harvest. Romans 11. The church is the grain. The jews are the fruit harvest. The 144k are called firstfruits. That references harvest. Firstfruits demands main harvest follows. So Rev 14, and romans 11 MUST BE INCLUDED TOGETHER. REV 14:14 CANNOT BE THE RAPTURE OF...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Nope. It says the AC is given power to overcome the saints. It says EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD TAKE the mark. It says the ones refusing are beheaded. It says the saints overcame the AC by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony, AND THEY LOVED NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH. The saints...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Dan 9 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    There is no one year wrath. The Jews are gathered right before the wrath. The AC desecrated the temple halfway through the 7 yr trib that you say does not exist.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    There is no saints "faithful to the end of the trib" It clearly says they are martyred. I did not see any rapture ofv1 thes 4 in your timeline. ( the one taken/one left of mat 24) Also did not see the Jewish gathering (jewish rapture of rev 14:14) right before the wrath part of the 7 yr trib.on...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The Light believes the first part of the 7 yr gt is just minor trib as we see today. In fact he believes we are in that first 3.5 yrs. He thinks the gt ( same as wrath) and wrath are all that is left. He starts ALL HIS ESCHATOLOGY with resistance to any future 7 yr period. In fact his...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Ooops You just pointed to a 7yr period. Imagine that!
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    QUOTE ""There is a final week, but that is not the 70th week of Daniel . The final week will begin when a 7-year covenant with many has been signed. That covenant will later be confirmed by the Antichrist. As for the 70th week of Daniel, there is only 3.5 years left in the 70th...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Rev 13 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    So you are A postribber, since all that is left is the wrath part of the 70th week.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    No, the 4 horsemen are not the beginning of sorrows. You totally made that up, you seem to forget, the first horseman is the Antichrist and that Kicks off the great tribulation of 7 years. According to Daniel, in the middle of that tribulation, is when the Antichrist enters the temple, so in...
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    All that conjecture is annihilated by God's Word. You hate the deity of Jesus. That means you hate the testimony of God and refuse salvation by denying Jesus. Your supposed salvation is through an imperfect human. Your doctrine claims salvation through corrupt human blood.
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    The doctrine of the trinity declares Jesus is the Son of God as you indicated. The virgin birth is declared in scripture. Only someone in rebellion would "have a problem" with what is vividly declared. The virgin birth is one of many pillars of tge Christian doctrine. I not only have no problem...
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    Quoting half of my thought is lame. Same as deception. Then saying it is "my problem" You ok?
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    On one dimension you simply believe it. ( the virgin birth) Even though we can not explain it. On the other hand, God tells us Jesus us not only deity , but God, and your mind tells you not to believe it. SMH
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    A virgin birth and Jesus resurrecting himself are also mind bending. Does not mean they are not pillars of the faith. The reason the pillars, such as the trinity , are non negotiable, is because to reject them, is to reject not only the bible, but God's testimony.
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    One thing you can not twist. Jesus is creator. Ask your workbook how Jesus created himself.
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    Angels are created. Jesus is the creator You have no salvation according to your doctrine. Watchtower followers are not saved by Jesus They boldly proclaim that.
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    Why did our Redeemer need to be both God and Man?

    Ok, the reason had to be God on the cross. And not just some good man.... It's because only God could resurrect. Jesus said "destroy this temple and in 3 days i will raise it up Even the disciples understood that. If you read in Galatians,around chapter 3 or so, It says "for there was no law...